Bonzi: "I've been healthy for 10 days, it's up to coach when I play"

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    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And one last question, what happens if you guys do succeed in the playoffs and make it to the Finals without Bonzi? Are you gonna change your stance than R4L?</div>

    He's already made up his mind. We're better with Bonzi, period. If Bonzi plays and we lose, its' because he wasn't used effectively or JVG screwed up in some other way. If Bonzi doesn't play and we don't win it all (which is 95% likely to be the case), then the blame will be pinned on Bonzi not playing (and Juwan not starting, and V-span/Novak not playing, stuff like that).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">He's already made up his mind. We're better with Bonzi, period. If Bonzi plays and we lose, its' because he wasn't used effectively or JVG screwed up in some other way. If Bonzi doesn't play and we don't win it all (which is 95% likely to be the case), then the blame will be pinned on Bonzi not playing (and Juwan not starting, and V-span/Novak not playing, stuff like that).</div>
    And you've already made up ur mind that the Rockets aren't going anywhere. According to Durvasa, the Rockets probably won't get past the 1st round anyway. Which explains why ur vision is so shallow for our team.

    By the way, Juwan started the 2nd half last night. How do feel about how he performed?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">You'd have to understand our team & frustration of previous years. On the outside, you'd prolly say "Gee, the Rockets have a good record. Do they really need Bonzi?". But the truth is, we do. Our team is primarily a jumpshooting team. That style of play doesn't suit well for a team aiming to go far in the playoffs. Even if JVG decided not to place Bonzi in the rotation, it's highly stupid to not atleast have him in uniform (in case of injuries). Personally, I think he should be in rotation considering we need another low post option when jumpers aren't falling.</div>How are you primarily a jump shooting team? Do you base this on the fact that you guys shoot the 2nd most threes in the NBA? I realize that could lead to your assumption, but I don't really understand it. When I've seen the Rockets play, they seem more of an inside out team, trying to get the ball to Yao first or let TMac get to the lane. But hey, that's just me I guess.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Again, check the history of years past. We've alwayz been "one player" away from being contenders. We tried to beat Dallas in the playoffs years ago, but fell short due to lack of size and a consistent 3rd option. So when we FINALLY get a player like Bonzi who can create, and has LOADS of playoff experience, JVG decides he doesn't want him on the team[​IMG] (I guess he'd much rather have David Wesley back[​IMG] ). The Rockets are a good team, but we rely WAY to heavily on 3's to win. We play more like a Eastern Conference team. Ya'll love to exaggerate my support for Bonzi, but ANY team in the league would want this guy come playoff time. </div>Define "loads" of playoff experience. Bonzi has only played in 36 playoff games, with nearly half of those (14) the year Portland got beat in the WCF by the Lakers. To put that in perspective, he was only playing about 14 mpg that year in the playoffs. Every other time he's been in the playoffs, his team has not made it out of the first round.

    Also, he's not the only guy on the roster with significant playoff experience. TMac has played in 25 playoff games, Mutumbo has played in 86, Battier has been in 12, etc.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Even tho we're havin a good season, if we don't get past the 1st round JVG's toast. Simple as that.</div>Why's that? He's done a great job this season and there isn't a reason to fire him. If a coach got fired due to ineffectiveness in the playoffs, Adelman wouldn't have lasted nearly as long at Sactown as he did. However, some people are smart and that's why they're GMs. Smart GMs realize they have a good coach and try to hold onto them as long as they can or until their time there has simply run out. I'm hoping your GM realizes he's got a good coach, because if you fire him simply because of a playoff failure, you're stupid.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">How are you primarily a jump shooting team? Do you base this on the fact that you guys shoot the 2nd most threes in the NBA? I realize that could lead to your assumption, but I don't really understand it. When I've seen the Rockets play, they seem more of an inside out team, trying to get the ball to Yao first or let TMac get to the lane. But hey, that's just me I guess.</div>
    Have you even watched uS play? What you fail to realize is the Rockets being a jumpshooting team isn't just Rock4life's "assumption". It's something we've already been labeled by our own commentators. It's a problem that's been WIDELY known all season. How can you make ur conclusion about Bonzi if you don't even watch many games? Get ur fact together[​IMG]

    Tmac is a jumpshooter, while Yao's more comfortable shooting his fadeaway. Juwan & Battier don't get many looks in the post either. Bonzi's low post game is something we should take advantage of, especially in the playoffs when the half court game is magnified. Common basketball knowledge

    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Define "loads" of playoff experience. Bonzi has only played in 36 playoff games, with nearly half of those (14) the year Portland got beat in the WCF by the Lakers. To put that in perspective, he was only playing about 14 mpg that year in the playoffs. Every other time he's been in the playoffs, his team has not made it out of the first round

    Also, he's not the only guy on the roster with significant playoff experience. TMac has played in 25 playoff games, Mutumbo has played in 86, Battier has been in 12, etc.</div>
    What's ur point? That Portland team went thru some real tough wars with the Lakers. Bonzi played well in those games also. I'm not sure why ur questioning his playoff experience, especially after how he played last year. The guy's averging 13.2pts 5rebs in the post season. Are you telling me we couldn't use that? Are you telling me activating Bonzi's really gonna mess up the whole chemistry of the team? You obviously don't watch the Rockets...

    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why's that? He's done a great job this season and there isn't a reason to fire him. If a coach got fired due to ineffectiveness in the playoffs, Adelman wouldn't have lasted nearly as long at Sactown as he did. However, some people are smart and that's why they're GMs. Smart GMs realize they have a good coach and try to hold onto them as long as they can or until their time there has simply run out. I'm hoping your GM realizes he's got a good coach, because if you fire him simply because of a playoff failure, you're stupid.</div>
    JVG's a good coach, that's where it stops. The problem is he's not willing to adapt. He's not willing to compromise. He's the only coach in the league who consistently rips his team after wins. The team is only a reflection of the coach, and if the coach is constantley miserable, how can you expect anything more from ur team?

    We have the oldest team in the league, and instead of resting them, JVG has our starters playin in a 4th quarter blow out[​IMG] Not to mention Howard bangs his knee during this stretch. BAD COACHING! Ur definatley misguided in ur opinion of JVG[​IMG]
     
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    Well from what I got when I called SR 610 today Bonzi is'nt even traveling with the team, so I really doubt he'll evr play for us again, I think something that's being overlooked is that Tracy has a bad back that could act up at any minute and by not even having Bonzi activated it REALLY makes JVG foolish. We wouldn't even have him on the bench!!I mean "Rock4life" is right we are a jump shooting team and Jeff is content with watching Skip.Luther and Tracy fling threes at the basket,the only easy baskets we ever get are from Chuck Hayes and now he's hurt. What big catasthrophic event is gonna unfold if Bonzi get's some PT? I mean now that Chuck is hurt there's obiously going to be some minutes available right? Bottom line is from what I can see some people here are never gonna admit that Jeff is stubborn and a control freak, me personally, well I think Jeff has to be held accountable for some of the bad showings this team has had. Play Bonzi, get a couple of plays called for him and see what happens! This guy is a matchup nightmare!!! It sure would be better than watching Luther go 2-8 from three.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">
    Tmac is a jumpshooter, while Yao's more comfortable shooting his fadeaway. Juwan & Battier don't get many looks in the post either. Bonzi's low post game is something we should take advantage of, especially in the playoffs when the half court game is magnified. Common basketball knowledge</div>TMac is not a jump shooter. He is a slasher first and foremost. The only reason you can call him a jump shooter is because he does shoot quite a bit of them, but he is far from a jump shooter. And you say Yao is more comfortable shooting his fadeaway, and while that's true, it's hardly a bad shot. A 7'6" man shooting a fadeaway from about 8 feet is a pretty good look. By the way, if you're gonna call that a jumpshot, you need to redefine what you call a jumper. Plus, Yao spends plenty of time in the paint, it's just a lot of his shots are fadeaways or face-up jumpers. Too bad none of them are really jump shots.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What's ur point? That Portland team went thru some real tough wars with the Lakers. Bonzi played well in those games also. I'm not sure why ur questioning his playoff experience, especially after how he played last year. The guy's averging 13.2pts 5rebs in the post season. Are you telling me we couldn't use that? Are you telling me activating Bonzi's really gonna mess up the whole chemistry of the team? You obviously don't watch the Rockets...</div>My point is that he has less experience than what you claim. The only "war" he was involved in was his first playoffs, and he barely played in those playoffs. He played all of 13.4 minutes in those playoffs and was only getting 7.5/2.5 per game. Every other playoffs he's been involved in, his team has not made it out of the first round. So personally, I don't see where this valuable experience is. And those stats you point out are slightly inflated. Outside of last season and the 02-03 playoffs, he hasn't done much. Outside of those, his best series pointswise was 12.3, and that series only lasted 3 games.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">JVG's a good coach, that's where it stops. The problem is he's not willing to adapt. He's not willing to compromise. He's the only coach in the league who consistently rips his team after wins. The team is only a reflection of the coach, and if the coach is constantley miserable, how can you expect anything more from ur team? </div>Why should JVG change his ways for one player? JVG has never liked players that don't work hard, and Bonzi has showed that he's not that hard of a worker. Why should he be rewarded with time now? He came into the season some 20 pounds overweight and wasn't working all that hard to lose the weight and get in shape. If Bonzi really wanted to play, he would have got his ass in shape at the beginning of the season and wouldn't have butted heads with JVG so early on. He's the dumbass that dug his own grave immediately, so why should he get rewarded. And if you really want to go a little farther back, he dug his own grave before the season even started by rejecting the Kings' offer.

    And also, what's wrong with constructive criticism? Who cares that he rips his team after wins. He's the coach, he's supposed to be looking at what they did wrong so they can fix it before the next game. Who cares if he's harsh or anything, he's just really doing what's best for the team. Would you rather him sugar-coat it and say they did nothing wrong, or would you rather fix the issues? Seems like an easy answer to me.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">TMac is not a jump shooter. He is a slasher first and foremost. The only reason you can call him a jump shooter is because he does shoot quite a bit of them, but he is far from a jump shooter. And you say Yao is more comfortable shooting his fadeaway, and while that's true, it's hardly a bad shot. A 7'6" man shooting a fadeaway from about 8 feet is a pretty good look. By the way, if you're gonna call that a jumpshot, you need to redefine what you call a jumper. Plus, Yao spends plenty of time in the paint, it's just a lot of his shots are fadeaways or face-up jumpers. Too bad none of them are really jump shots.</div>
    Tmac not a jumpshooter? This tells me you have absolutley no clue how the Rockets play.Though he does occaisonally slash, he's primarily a jumpshooter. Yao's more of a midrange threat than inside most games. So ur not gettin it! What happens when Tmac's jumpers off? Or when Yao isn't hittting his fadeaway? We have absolutley NOBODY who can carry the offense. Bonzi's a low post scorer, and he gets to the free throw line. Those are options ur gonna NEED in the postseason. The WORST thing a coach could do is not have that option available.


    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why should JVG change his ways for one player? JVG has never liked players that don't work hard, and Bonzi has showed that he's not that hard of a worker. Why should he be rewarded with time now? He came into the season some 20 pounds overweight and wasn't working all that hard to lose the weight and get in shape. If Bonzi really wanted to play, he would have got his ass in shape at the beginning of the season and wouldn't have butted heads with JVG so early on. He's the dumbass that dug his own grave immediately, so why should he get rewarded. And if you really want to go a little farther back, he dug his own grave before the season even started by rejecting the Kings' offer. </div>
    This is exactly what you've been workin up to say all season. "It's Bonzi fault", "He needs to get in shape", "His attitude is bad". But on the contrary, Bonzi played pretty good considering he didn't get minutes and no plays called for him (and coming off a groin injury). Regardless of what happened earlier in the season, it's time to forget about that and do WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TEAM. The team in the longrun is gonna need Bonzi. Looking at the Mavs, Spurs & Suns, we can't afford to have a player like Bonzi not playing. Our current squad isn't built to beat the elite teams.

    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">And also, what's wrong with constructive criticism? Who cares that he rips his team after wins. He's the coach, he's supposed to be looking at what they did wrong so they can fix it before the next game. Who cares if he's harsh or anything, he's just really doing what's best for the team. Would you rather him sugar-coat it and say they did nothing wrong, or would you rather fix the issues? Seems like an easy answer to me.</div>
    Ur obviously on the bandwagon a little too hard. Nothin wrong with constructive criticism, but you don't "RIP" ur team after every win. A coach's main job is to insert CONFIDENCE in his players. If ur constantley down on the team, their energy isn't gonna be there night in & night out. However, if ur coach has a confident swagga (Pat Riley, Phil Jax, Popovich etc..)then ur most likely gonna get that from ur team.

    <div align="center">Since you don't watch many games, here's a Rocket FACT</div>:
    NO COACH IN ROCKETS HISTORY HAS LASTED FOUR FULL SEASONS WITHOUT PLAYOFF SERIES VICTORY.(Excluding Rudy, bein he got 2rings and was part of our rebuilding phase)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Blurr#7 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well from what I got when I called SR 610 today Bonzi is'nt even traveling with the team, so I really doubt he'll evr play for us again, I think something that's being overlooked is that Tracy has a bad back that could act up at any minute and by not even having Bonzi activated it REALLY makes JVG foolish. We wouldn't even have him on the bench!!I mean "Rock4life" is right we are a jump shooting team and Jeff is content with watching Skip.Luther and Tracy fling threes at the basket,the only easy baskets we ever get are from Chuck Hayes and now he's hurt. What big catasthrophic event is gonna unfold if Bonzi get's some PT? I mean now that Chuck is hurt there's obiously going to be some minutes available right? Bottom line is from what I can see some people here are never gonna admit that Jeff is stubborn and a control freak, me personally, well I think Jeff has to be held accountable for some of the bad showings this team has had. Play Bonzi, get a couple of plays called for him and see what happens! This guy is a matchup nightmare!!! It sure would be better than watching Luther go 2-8 from three.</div>
    This is true^^^^^^ I agree 100%.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">This is exactly what you've been workin up to say all season. "It's Bonzi fault", "He needs to get in shape", "His attitude is bad". But on the contrary, Bonzi played pretty good considering he didn't get minutes and no plays called for him (and coming off a groin injury). Regardless of what happened earlier in the season, it's time to forget about that and do WHAT'S BEST FOR THE TEAM. The team in the longrun is gonna need Bonzi. Looking at the Mavs, Spurs & Suns, we can't afford to have a player like Bonzi not playing. Our current squad isn't built to beat the elite teams.</div>How isn't it Bonzi's fault? He wasn't in shape when he came into the season. He didn't work hard when he did get to camp. Hell, he didn't even have to be in Houston if he wasn't such an idiot. And while Bonzi has played well, you neglect to realize what durvasa point out earlier. They are a measly 12-14 with Bonzi in the lineup. And just a thought, outside of a couple good games, Bonzi really hasn't played that great. He's got numerous games of under 10 points in which he's played around 20 minutes or more, 9 to be exact. In fact, the only great game he's had was his 27/9 game in a loss. Like I said earlier, if he's not gonna bring a good attitude, why play him. He's just going to disrupt the chemistry on the game and he'll probably take touches away from Yao and TMac.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Ur obviously on the bandwagon a little too hard. Nothin wrong with constructive criticism, but you don't "RIP" ur team after every win. A coach's main job is to insert CONFIDENCE in his players. If ur constantley down on the team, their energy isn't gonna be there night in & night out. However, if ur coach has a confident swagga (Pat Riley, Phil Jax, Popovich etc..)then ur most likely gonna get that from ur team</div>No, a coaches main job is to win. The players have to find confidence themselves, it shouldn't be up to the coach to do it for them. If a player gets down because the coach is criticizing them, they shouldn't be playing. If you have that low of a self-esteem, you shouldn't be playing the game. The fact of the matter is that the only way you can fix problems with your team is by criticizing them. Every coach does it, he's just the only one that consistently brings it public. To me, there's nothing wrong with it. He's been coaching like that for a long time and has been very successful, so why should he change his coaching ways now?

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"><div align="center">Since you don't watch many games, here's a Rocket FACT</div>:
    NO COACH IN ROCKETS HISTORY HAS LASTED FOUR FULL SEASONS WITHOUT PLAYOFF SERIES VICTORY.(Excluding Rudy, bein he got 2rings and was part of our rebuilding phase)</div>How many good coaches have you had outside of JVG and Rudy?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">How isn't it Bonzi's fault? He wasn't in shape when he came into the season. He didn't work hard when he did get to camp. Hell, he didn't even have to be in Houston if he wasn't such an idiot. And while Bonzi has played well, you neglect to realize what durvasa point out earlier. They are a measly 12-14 with Bonzi in the lineup. And just a thought, outside of a couple good games, Bonzi really hasn't played that great. He's got numerous games of under 10 points in which he's played around 20 minutes or more, 9 to be exact. In fact, the only great game he's had was his 27/9 game in a loss. Like I said earlier, if he's not gonna bring a good attitude, why play him. He's just going to disrupt the chemistry on the game and he'll probably take touches away from Yao and TMac.</div>
    That's my point. Every incident ur talkin about is at the BEGINNING of the season. Whether or not Bonzi was in game shape, he was coming off an INJURY. I wouldn't give our record w/ Bonzi much importance, because he didn't finish many of those games he played. Nor did he get many looks on the block. Ur focus seems to be on Bonzi's attitude, but he's done everything you can ask from him since early in the season. He's played hard! He's also previously attempted to talk things over with JVG, but to no avail! How many games have you seen Bonzi play in? Jus curious

    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">No, a coaches main job is to win. The players have to find confidence themselves, it shouldn't be up to the coach to do it for them. If a player gets down because the coach is criticizing them, they shouldn't be playing. If you have that low of a self-esteem, you shouldn't be playing the game. The fact of the matter is that the only way you can fix problems with your team is by criticizing them. Every coach does it, he's just the only one that consistently brings it public. To me, there's nothing wrong with it. He's been coaching like that for a long time and has been very successful, so why should he change his coaching ways now?</div>
    A coaches job is too win also. But at this point in Rockets history, just winning isn't good enuff. We're competing for a championship NOW. Everybody in the organization knows this. The Rockets aren't trying to rebuild, we're trying to become like the Spurs somewhat (consistently good). But we'll never get there with a coach who's alwayz whining, complaining & holding silly grudges against players. If Bonzi doesn't play in the playoffs, the Rockets will have hard time relying on 3's to win. Carol Dawson will most likely FIRE JVG in place for a more upbeat less miserable coach. Rightfully so...................

    ANOTHER ROCKET FACT:We're last in the league at gettin to free throw line this year. Another one of Bonzi's strengths
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">TMac is not a jump shooter. He is a slasher first and foremost. <font size=""4"">The only reason you can call him a jump shooter is because </font><font size=""4"">he does shoot quite a bit of them</font>, but he is far from a jump shooter.</div>

    [​IMG]I just think that's hilarious!!
     
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    Umm, Bonzi's a 55% free throw shooter this year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Umm, Bonzi's a 55% free throw shooter this year.</div>

    [​IMG] Rock4life is entertaining, I'll give him that.

    I don't know how many times I have to say it. Bonzi's gotten plenty of ISOs and post up opportunities while he's been in the game. It's been no different than last season. He simply hasn't converted this year. One thing is certain. In the playoffs, McGrady and Yao have to play big minutes for us to be successful. That means Bonzi's role on the team would be even further reduced. If he was ineffective during the regular season because he supposedly wasn't getting enough touches, why would he suddenly become more effective in the playoffs with a reduced role and against better competition?

    BTW, Bonzi made the trip out to LA. JVG hasn't been particularly happy with Snyder's play, so I think there's still a chance Bonzi will play again for us.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Locke Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Umm, Bonzi's a 55% free throw shooter this year.</div>
    In the little time he's played, he's shot poorly. I still don't think that's enuff to keep him off the team
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know how many times I have to say it. Bonzi's gotten plenty of ISOs and post up opportunities while he's been in the game. It's been no different than last season. He simply hasn't converted this year. One thing is certain. In the playoffs, McGrady and Yao have to play big minutes for us to be successful. That means Bonzi's role on the team would be even further reduced. [/b]If he was ineffective during the regular season because he supposedlywasn't getting enough touches, why would he suddenly become more effective in the playoffs with a reduced role and against better competition[/B]?</div>
    Why would his role be reduced? Luther's comin into his first playoff role and Snyder's still a puppy playoff wise. What makes you think we can depend on these guys to pick up the slack. Experience can take you far in this league.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Why would his role be reduced?</div>

    Because both Yao and Tracy will be playing for us, they'll be playing heavy minutes, and they'll be dominating the ball. If you thought Bonzi didn't get enough touches in the regular season, I guarantee you wouldn't be happy with the touches he'd get in the playoffs. And if Bonzi's struggles this season can be attributed to his lack of touches, then shouldn't we expect those struggles to continue in the postseason?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">In the little time he's played, he's shot poorly. I still don't think that's enuff to keep him off the team</div>
    Would his lack of touches really affect his free throw shooting? And FYI, he's shot 80 of them already this season.

    Your double standards are maddening. One of your main knocks on Chuck Hayes was his free throw shooting, and when it comes to Bonzi, it becomes the coach's fault? I mean, I've come to expect some of it from you but your bias is really becoming extreme.
     
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    Completely agree with durvasa. I don't see the point of integrating Bonzi at this point for the reasons I've pointed out and that. If he's not a huge part as of now, he's going to be less. In the playoffs, you want your best players to have the ball as much as possible, so if Yao and TMac don't see more shots, I'd be shocked.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because both Yao and Tracy will be playing for us, they'll be playing heavy minutes, and they'll be dominating the ball. If you thought Bonzi didn't get enough touches in the regular season, I guarantee you wouldn't be happy with the touches he'd get in the playoffs. And if Bonzi's struggles this season can be attributed to his lack of touches, then shouldn't we expect those struggles to continue in the postseason?</div>
    Um, it's called having a reliable bench. If Tmac's jumper's not falling and Yao's in the trouble, whoelse besides Bonzi has offensivley carried a team in the playoffs before? Luther & Snyder are both erratic, Skip's inconsistent, Hayes isn't even relevant offensivley & Battier doesn't even look for his shot. Howard can't carry the offense by himself, while Mutumbo isn't a threat. The better teams are gonna make it hard for our superstars. Bonzi's the only player with the capability to takeover the game. What is ur Plan B, C & D on offense without Bonzi?

    Oh I forgot, we might not even need Bonzi (According to Durvasa, Locke, Mook & Foo[​IMG])
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Rock4life Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Um, it's called having a reliable bench. If Tmac's jumper's not falling and Yao's in the trouble, whoelse besides Bonzi has offensivley carried a team in the playoffs before? Luther & Snyder are both erratic, Skip's inconsistent, Hayes isn't even relevant offensivley & Battier doesn't even look for his shot. Howard can't carry the offense by himself, while Mutumbo isn't a threat. The better teams are gonna make it hard for our superstars. Bonzi's the only player with the capability to takeover the game. What is ur Plan B, C & D on offense without Bonzi?

    Oh I forgot, we might not even need Bonzi (According to Durvasa, Locke, Mook & Foo[​IMG])</div>

    Wow, I've watched Yao and tracy BOTH go cold and the Rockets offense look like a NBDL team. I've also watched the team as a whole shoot 30+ threes and get destroyed on the boards(figure that out).How can having a guy like Bonzi as an option off the bench be a bad thing? Bonzi's points usually come from plays goin to the basket(Ask Ginobilli) and let's look at the fact that Bonzi is a great finisher around the basket.You know I don't agree that Juwon should be starting I like Chuck in the line up I agree with Durvasa and Locke on that. But this whole "Bonzi can't help us in the playoffs" thing really makes no sense to me.
     

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