And given the Bulls situation of loading assets just to make the big deal, getting burned twice (Garnett and Gasol), Chicago is the one team that would probably overpay for Bosh to secure him.
But why would Bosh not want to bolt in 2010? He's going to want to play for a contender and unless Rose explodes into superstardom in his second year, would Bosh want to stay in a team that won't be ready to contend?
the only things bosh does better significantly better than aldridge is get defensive rebounds and get to the foul line, neither of which are team weaknesses of ours. figuring what bosh would cost in terms of loss of cap flexibility and potential ability to upgrade other positions if needed he's just as likely to be a step backwards as forwards.
They'll be ready to contend soon. They will already have a 20 PPG guy in Gordon. It won't take Rose too long to get to star level. With the exception of a few guys (Jermaine O'neal, Tracy McGrady), players usually are stars by the end of their rookie contract...especially if they become superstars. Rose/Gordon/Bosh. That team has a deadly guard duo, and would all of a sudden have an inside threat. That's a good core. And if they can do the trade I posted (Thomas/Noah/Deng), and they don't take any 2010+ contracts back in the trade, they could add another one of the 2010 free agents as long as they find a taker for Kirk Hinrich.
Bosh is better than Aldridge in just about every aspect of the game. Bosh/Roy would be an absolutely deadly combo unrivaled by just about any two man show in the league.
unless you need help at other positions more and the upgrade isn't significant enough to justify the massive cost and potential loss of all cap flexibility in the future.
Shh, don't let Kevin Pritchard know....there is no reason that a Roy/Bosh/Oden team needs to be assembled.
I guess that depends on how big of an upgrade you see it as. I see it as pairing two perennial all-stars, both with the ability to get to the line, and one with a refined inside and outside game. You obviously see it as just a slightly better Aldridge. You have a different perspective I guess. It's not really as big of a cost as you think though, since Aldridge is going to end up signing a near max extension at the end of this season anyways. You're probably looking at around 5-6 million extra a year for Bosh over Aldridge. I'd say it's definitely worth it, especially given Bosh's young age.
I guess it really depends on what else is out there... if we can use RLEC to get a starting-quality small forward, do you use him to get Bosh? Would you rather have Aldridge and a good small forward, or just Bosh?
I think most GMs can safely assume he'd re-sign. Free agency in the NBA is a very different beast than in the NFL and MLB. In those sports, it would be virtually guaranteed that a top talent would explore the market and the ensuing bidding war could end unpredictably. In the NBA, the player's current team can always legally offer him the most, so money is always on the side of the current team (except in the case of owners too cheap to max out a top talent) with no chance of risky bidding wars. And money is usually the main factor. Obviously, if the players hates it on a team or the team is terrible, that can change things...but Portland, say, is already a very good team and there's no reason to believe that will change. Combine that with Portland offering the most money and the chances Bosh would leave is vanishingly small. I personally think Aldridge + LaFrentz for Bosh is a no-brainer to do. If more talent is involved on Portland's side, it becomes more arguable.
I think as fans of a certain team, we tend to overvalue our players and undervalue others. (What's that term again? Homerism? ) We see more of one player and tend to think more highly of them, however, in this situation, I can guarantee that an Oden/Roy/Bosh trio would absolutely send shivers down the spine of every team in the league, including those Lakers. If you can assemble that team without giving too much, you do it.
If we can get Caron Butler or Gerald Wallace for RLEC, then for the love of god, do it. But if we were able to do that, then it would have already been done. Personally, I think the reason we haven't been able to get a legitimate upgrade at the SF spot is because no opportunities have arisen. If this Bosh rumor is true, then we might actually have a chance at him, so we should go after it.
I don't think that's a very good offer. Deng is a very good player, Thomas is a bust and Noah an average player. Toronto can definitely get a lot more than that for currently the best young man outside of Dwight Howard. Without including Rose, I don't think Chicago has the trade chips to go after Bosh.
no he's not. he's more aggressive and a better finisher at the hoop offensively, and gets to the line a ton - but he's playing that primary roll in toronto surrounded by a bunch of outside shooters. a lot of the roll in which he builds offensive stats would be taken by roy and oden here. otherwise there's no obvious evidence he's better in any way than aldridge at this point, other than having more experience and probably a higher level of confidence. bosh gets more defensive rebounds than aldridge but he has the advantage of being the primary rebounder on his team. aldridge actually has a slight edge in offensive rebounding, shot blocking, and steals, and turns the ball over a lot less than bosh. of primary concern is that bosh does not have a great reputation around the league as a defender, and when i've watched him i've seen nothing that would indicate he'd be an upgrade from aldridge at all in that department.
That may or may not be true. If a team were considering a trade of either of those players, they would wait until the last possible minute before the deadline to see if it was all they could get. I think if those two are traded, or anyone else for that matter, it will be at the deadline.
The reason he's better at this is because he's a better player than Aldridge. He's more adept in the low post, certainly a better back to the basket AND face up player than Aldridge. Plus he gets to the line more because he's a more aggressive player. How many times have we seen Aldridge in a perfect position to penetrate, but decides to shoot a jumper or a fade away instead of taking it to the basket? Getting free throws is also a key component to a winning team. Right now, only Roy and sometimes Bayless can get to the line consistently. You won't have to worry about that with Bosh. (It also helps that Bosh gets superstar calls from time to time) Bosh isn't the primary re-bounder. They have O'Neal too you know. Besides that, I agree that rebounding really isn't an issue. That's not what he'd be brought here for though. Maybe that's just you and me, but I've seen Bosh play great defense before. Maybe a change of scenery and the chance to contend for a championship will motivate him to play harder defense? The main luxury though is just having a second go to scorer. LMA is getting there, but I don't know if he can be consistently called on to score if he is unwilling to go to the basket and get free throws. Bosh is SIGNIFICANTLY better at getting to the FT line, and that makes a huge difference in games.
