Zombie Brandon Rush... we got pritch slapped.

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Again, I'm talking 10 mpg here, maybe. My thinking, flawed though it may be, is that Martell might have been more effective against 2s than 3s (despite his apparently horrific handle). We've really never seen much of Webster at the 2. Perhaps the size of a Roy-Webster backcourt would be difficult for the opposition to handle. Maybe, maybe not--who knows?

    What I do know is that I didn't like the way the team looked when Jack was running the point, and that I'd rather have had Roy do so 10 mpg than Jack.
     
  2. MIXUM

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    why do blazer fans get obsessed over average players like bayless??????????????

    same thing happened with sergio
     
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    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    b/c we support our team, no matter who it is.

    But you obviously dont get that...cuz you're not really a true fan.
     
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    It is pretty clear that the Blazers did not like it either - since they traded him - for another PG (even if found to be not ready then and maybe for ever).

    I am pretty sure however that the Blazers have enough information on what the team looks like when Roy is the only ball-handler given that they have all these practices that we have no access to - and they have been pretty persistent looking for more people to share ball handling duties with Roy - be it JB, Sergio getting extended minutes, trying to get the Cosmopolitan first and Miller later and even talking about making Rudy more of a ball-handler.

    Given this information - I suspect that they do not like the idea of Roy being the primary and only ball-handler and do not consider Webster a good fit at the #2 spot.
     
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    his rookie year (11.6 PER) he was used almost exclusively as a SG. Posters actually argued against drafting Roy because Martell was clearly the SG of the future :rolleyes2:

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    just like we argued bassy was better then paul and williams?

    lmao


    yah.. we should support all blazers. even the ones who suck like bayless. maybe we can sign HA when joel leaves.

    hey im just supporting past blazers. we dont care if they suck! thats why blazer fans have a reputation of pure homers.
     
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    I was on the lonely side of that argument too. The problem with your comparison is that Brandon Rush hasn't exactly set the league on fire thus far and he's 24 this year. A good preseason performance doesn't change how poorly he's done in games that matter.

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  10. MIXUM

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    HERES WHAT IM ASKING...


    If youre an nba gm.... would you trade bayless for rush/jack?

    i say no brainer.. unless you are stacked at pg, sg or sf

    to be fair... blazers kinda are but still i think kp made an awful deal
     
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    At this point, I would not. I still think Bayless is going to break-out sooner or later - and when he does - his value would be higher than these 2 - and I am a bigger fan of JJack than many on this forum.

    At the end of the day it seems to me that JJ and Rus hare both going to be rotation players in the NBA or border-line starters - where JB will be a definite starter.

    So - with all due respect - I still think rolling the dice on JB was the right thing to do. Am I certain JB will be better? No. If he does - do I think it will necessarily happen on this team? No. But I still think that when all is said and done - his value will be higher - and if that is realized by his play for the Blazers or by value we get for him via a trade - it does not matter.
     
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    Rush, despite being "the most NBA-ready" prospect in the draft and being fairly close to his prime in his rookie season (age 23) and despite playing a solid number of minutes per game...had an absolutely horrific season. He put up a 9.0 PER. For a player who likely doesn't have much upside, that makes his chances of being a good NBA player pretty tiny.

    Bayless had a similarly bad season, but was much younger, wasn't considered NBA-ready and got very few minutes (and what he got was sporadic). He has more and superior tools and more pre-prime years to improve.

    There isn't a single GM in the NBA, IMO, who would rather have Rush over Bayless. Both were terrible as rookies, one has a real chance to improve significantly. That one isn't the 24 year old.

    I agree with STOMP and crowTrobot that, if Portland missed, it was having the Pacers select Bayless over Randolph for them. But I think Bayless was a perfectly reasonable pick at the time and I think Bayless still has the ability to make the pick look good. His rookie season was disappointing to me, but I do think it's tough for a raw prospect to get the hang of NBA game speed when he gets so few and irregular minutes.
     
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    I think Mixum's head will explode when he sees DeJuan Blair's numbers.

    Brandon Rush, Bayless, Jack; These are all guys who would not (and in Bayless's case will not) see any PT on this current Blazer team. Too many guys at their positions who are flat out better.

    Bayless may someday become an everyday NBA player, but I am guessing that happens somewhere else.
     
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    you tell 'em MIXUM!
     
  16. MIXUM

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    spoken like a true homer (see 2 posts above)


    OMG.... CANT SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT BLAZERS!
     
  17. blue32

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    go away, your schtick is old
     
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    I agree man. I will try to do the same.

    I would LOVE to sign Ha to backup GO!

    Well, you can say bad stuff about the Blazers. Just make sure it is correct, accurate and relevant.
     
  19. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I say we ignore them.. and they go away.
     
  20. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well Said... Lets start it now.. the ingoring of dipwits!
     

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