Zombie Brandon Rush... we got pritch slapped.

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  1. DaRizzle

    DaRizzle BLAKER

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    All Mixum does is spot certain areas that need improvement...a devils advocate is a good thing, makes you not get disillusion

    Just think...you are all "Mixum" to me when it comes to my Lakers :cheers:
     
  2. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Lol I do not constantly bitch and moan.. not singling him out.. there are others who do it here. Even when shown otherwise they will still continue to bitch and moan. It just gets old and tiresome.
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    OK--so if we're basing decisions on a 19-year-old's rookie year, then Martell should be a 2, because his numbers were clearly better at SG than SF

    http://www.82games.com/0506/05POR7C.HTM

    That red herring aside, all I'm saying is that all things being equal, given the team we had in '07-'08, I'd rather have seen Martell out there than Jack. My opinion--that is all.
     
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    All good points. Let me offer a few mild counter-points.

    First, trading Jack wasn't rolling the dice on Bayless. It was rolling the dice on Rudy. Jack was not our PG of the future, but he could have been a productice back-up to Roy. Rudy, however, has a higher ceiling - and the trade left Nate with no choice but to give him a fair shot.

    Second, we were also rolling the dice on Webster. Most (maybe all) GMs might take Bayless over Rush.....but i'm not so sure they would take Webster over Rush. (and yes, I am assuming Rush can play SF on a semi-regular basis) IMHO, Rush could be better than Webster - which would make him a better "fit" for the team.
     
  5. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Guys, seriously. There is no Player X bad enough that qualifies Brandon Rush for Player X as a Pritchslap. We're talking about a 23-year old rookie who had a PER = 9.0 His on-court/off-courts stats were horrible. Indiana was worse on both offense and defense with Rush on the floor. He played 45% of the possible minutes last season (so this isn't a sample size issue). And here's his on/off court numbers:

    Pacers' Offense - Points Scored/100 possessions:
    On-Court 106.4
    Off-Court 111.1
    Net -4.6

    Pacers' Defense - Points Allowed/100 possessions:
    On-Court 111.3
    Off-Court 109.9
    Net +1.4

    So, the Pacers score 4.6 fewer points per 100 possessions with Rush on the floor and also give up 1.4 more points per 100 possessions. So, they are 6 points per 100 possession worse with him on the court than with him on the bench.

    While bad, that's not enough to make me give up on a typical rookie. Rush was not a typical rookie. He was 23 years old. So, he doens't even have a lot of untapped potential.

    There isn't a single player on our roster I would trade straight up for Barndon Rush. And that would be true even if we still had Ike Diogu, Channing Frye Shavlik Randolph and (gasp) Sergio Rodriguez. He's a bad player with very little upside. Even if Bayless ends up being a total bust and is out of the league after his rookie contract, I will not feel like we got Pritchslapped in this deal. In order to be Pritchslapped you need to give up something of great value (Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge) and get something of substantially lesser value in return (Randy Foye, Tyrus Thomas). Brandon Rush will never have sufficient value to qualify.

    BNM
     
  6. oldguy

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    BUMP

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    8.5 pts, 1 rb, 1.5 ast, 46%fg, 43%3pfg, 80%ft in 15 minutes in a good team.


    Rush
    8 pts, 4 rb, 1 ast, 39%fg, 33%3pfg, 48%ft in 28 minutes on a lotto team.

    So, Bayless, with no jumper, produces about the same stats, in HALF the minutes, with much better efficiency.

    And you think our wussie GM got swindled? Ok, then. You da man. :smiley-thumbup:

    Go Blazers
     
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    This Mixum guy keeps failing epically on every prediction. It's pretty obvious he's a troll, I don't get why people bother arguing with him.
     
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    ...we should BUMP all of these threads after the "prediction" fails miserably :devil:
     
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    Failure.... again.
     
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    We should go after this Rush guy. Also, fire KP and put mixum in charge.
     
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    Thanks for Jarrett, been quite nice for us in Toronto. And hey, Brandon won my Jayhawks a national title, so he's my man.
     
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    bump...

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    Bumping the MIXUM thread? I'd say no. Lol.
     
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    lol, i didnt even realize that. hahaha
     
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    The only thing better then seeing an old thread being bumped is see that the thread was started by someone I've banned.

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    or a vacuum cleaner, lol.
     
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