My goodness, not what I said or what I was referring to...the convo is about the reason why Griner felt the need to supplement her WNBA income, that's all.
You said "No one is going convince me that paying a male 82 times more money than a female is anywhere near equitable, regardless of the occupation." That no man is worth 82 times their female counter part. I just merely pointed out it is not a male female thing, like you implied but is about revenue , The base salary in the XFL is 59K Mahomes is making 40M. No one is feeling bad or expecting the NFL players to give up some of their salaries or anything for XFL players. Why should WNBA players be treated different then any other professional athlete in any other sport?
Yes, I'm well aware of what I said...and yes, I still don't think it's OK for a male to make 82 times more than a female...you feel otherwise, that's fine. But again, that's not how this convo began, but it morphed into a different direction as threads often do. The issue I took exception to was nate's idea that maybe if Griner had not been so greedy by wanting to supplement her income by playing overseas, she would not have been put in jail...and so, he did not feel sorry for her.
So you are okay with men making 82 times more then other men, but not more then women. Okay, just wanted to understand. I don't get why it is okay for men to make 82 times more then other men but not other women, but you think someone's pay should be based on their gender and not on the amount of income the produce for the company they work for. I think pay should be based on the profitability of their jobs not based on their gender, but I you feel otherwise and that is fine. I personally feel bad for her, but she is an adult who made a poor choice in going to Russia with what was going on at the time and took a product that was illegal. Was the punishment harsh and excessive, yes, but that was her choice to take that risk.
No, I never said that. And Griner had been playing in Russia for years as were many others...her mistake was taking a vape pen with her.
So all players in all leagues should be paid equally? Greg Brown and Dame should have equal salaries is what you are saying? You said no man should make 82 times that of a female, but you also don't think any male should make 82 times more then another male, so all professional basketball players should have equal salaries, no matter their skill level? I am just curious where you draw the line.
Nobody said she needed to work in Russia. Only that there was more incentive for her to work in Russia than not. Incentive which most people would pursue in the same situation. People tend to behave in a manner consistent with which they have the most incentive. Wanting a person to ignore this incentive for your own protection is not logical. This kind of thinking is how we have high rates of violent crime and murder in our country than other wealthy countries, as well as worse health, less happiness, and lower educational scores.
Again, nobody said she had to do anything. Just that the incentives are set up so that most people in that situation would do it. Case in point, she's worth nearly $5Mil because she played in Russia. You yourself said you'd "kill" for that kind of money. Would you kill to avoid going to work in Russia a few years ago? Because it sounds a lot like you'd make the same choice she did and take the paycheck in Russia.
I would not. I would not work in a dangerous country to make money. I have a family. It's not worth the risk.
The NBA created the WNBA. The NBA lost money the first several decades of it's existence, and it wouldn't exist today if the owners and league were unwilling to lose money. It's not unreasonable for the NBA to guarantee WNBA players at least the same minimum salary per game as NBA players, which would work out to just over $400k per player or under $70 million per season. Then teams would have to get serious about making money so they could afford to pay good players more. And the NBA would have more incentive to advertise and boost visibility for the WNBA. This helps align incentives the way they should be.
None of the discussion about pay has anything to do with an American hostage held in Russia was released. To me that's a good thing.
I keep trying to buy tanks and RPGs from my local gun store.... but alas, they never have them in stock.
