Basically, Kobe's being made an example. Was he suspended for the Miller foul, I don't recall? That was blatant, and a nice shot. Like Shape said, he deserved at least 5 for that. The league doesn't suspend anybody else other than Kobe, that's our problem. There have been plenty of plays that have been worse than these two drawing contact calls, but the league doesn't even review them. That's our only beef with it, be consistent.
This quote pretty much sums it all up for me: "I'm concerned about that. For them to try to make an example out of me is upsetting."
Double standard... this says it all to me: How is this not deserving of a suspension if Kobe was? Invalid Video Link
Because of Lebrons reaction afterward. I saw it live. A good attitude can go a long way. After the Jaric play, Kobe just stands there as if saying... "foul on me? what?"
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because of Lebrons reaction afterward. I saw it live. A good attitude can go a long way. After the Jaric play, Kobe just stands there as if saying... "foul on me? what?"</div> Oh!? So now we are doling out suspensions based on post reactions?! Thats right... knock someone's block off and act as sincerely sorry as possible and you will be fine...
<div class="quote_poster">AKIRA Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">why do non-laker fans care so much? this doesnt effect you, get out of here if all you want to do is hang **** on kobe for what he did, the only reason your doing it is because you hate kobe for stupid reasons, none of this effects you but you still come in here and insult kobe, which, in turn, insults us laker fans. im sorry but thats just how it is, if you aren't effected by it then why are you complaining? anyway i think its a bit hard to tell if this is intentional or not, if kobe says it was unintentional the i believe him, and if jaric actually backs him up then ofcourse i will beleive that kobe wasnt looking to hurt anyone, but its hard to tell if jaric is only saying it because he has too much respect for kobe, or something like that.</div> What the hell are you talking about? So only Laker fans can talk about the suspension?
<div class="quote_poster">Fiyah Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh!? So now we are doling out suspensions based on post reactions?! Thats right... knock someone's block off and act as sincerely sorry as possible and you will be fine... </div> I did not say such was the case for every single foul and incident that can happen in the NBA. You obviously missed my point. But that's ok, we'll agree to disagree.
Damn, Kobe just gave out an arm to Korvers face :S Hope he doesn't a multiple-game suspension for that... cuz he really is on fire atm.
This elbow was intentional by Kobe. Check out the video replay. VIDEO He'll be suspended for multiple games, I'm predicting at least 3.
Wait, that just happened today? Wow. Kobe elbowing someone because they were playing good defense on them? Sounds kinda like Manu and Jaric.....
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because of Lebrons reaction afterward. I saw it live. A good attitude can go a long way. After the Jaric play, Kobe just stands there as if saying... "foul on me? what?"</div>I'm sorry, but that's complete bullshit and that's complete double standard. I don't care how he reacted, he still did it. So you're saying that if Kobe apologized to Jaric and showed concern he wouldn't have been suspended? I completely doubt that. The league is holding Kobe to a double standard compared to everyone else right now. Everything he does gets scrutinized, yet if Shaq or LeBron do anything wrong, Stu Jackson just blows it off and doesn't even bother looking at it.
<div class="quote_poster">Moo2K4 Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I'm sorry, but that's complete bullshit and that's complete double standard. I don't care how he reacted, he still did it. So you're saying that if Kobe apologized to Jaric and showed concern he wouldn't have been suspended? I completely doubt that. The league is holding Kobe to a double standard compared to everyone else right now. Everything he does gets scrutinized, yet if Shaq or LeBron do anything wrong, Stu Jackson just blows it off and doesn't even bother looking at it.</div> A double standard requires that they did the same thing. They didn't. Kobe was looking to draw contact in a deceptive (consequentially, unsportsmanlike) manner and he accidentally whacked someone in the face as a result. LeBron was attempting an intentoinal foul (a legitimate basketball play) and accidentally whacked Wade in the face. I think that's a crucial distinction. People will get hurt, and it isn't always worthy of punishment. It's a contact sport afterall. But if a player is getting hurt due to a non-basketball play than that is something very different. Do you think the league should legitimize flopping by considering it an actual, natural basketball play?
<div class="quote_poster">Marbire Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Because of Lebrons reaction afterward. I saw it live. A good attitude can go a long way. After the Jaric play, Kobe just stands there as if saying... "foul on me? what?"</div> Get your lips off where the sun don't shine.
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">A double standard requires that they did the same thing. They didn't. Kobe was looking to draw contact in a deceptive (consequentially, unsportsmanlike) manner and he accidentally whacked someone in the face as a result. LeBron was attempting an intentoinal foul (a legitimate basketball play) and accidentally whacked Wade in the face. I think that's a crucial distinction. People will get hurt, and it isn't always worthy of punishment. It's a contact sport afterall. But if a player is getting hurt due to a non-basketball play than that is something very different. Do you think the league should legitimize flopping by considering it an actual, natural basketball play?</div> The NBA definitely isn't a contact sport.
<div class="quote_poster">Eternal Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The NBA definitely isn't a contact sport.</div> Well, lesser contact than back in the day, but still there's a good deal of contact. <div class="quote_poster">Fiyah Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Oh!? So now we are doling out suspensions based on post reactions?! Thats right... knock someone's block off and act as sincerely sorry as possible and you will be fine... </div> Uh, Kobe's attitude and LeBron's attitude were quite the opposite. LeBron was apologetic and didn't seem one bit like he was acting to be sorry .. you could tell he really was. Whereas Kobe just .....(uh, let me find the right words)..... didn't give a ****.
<div class="quote_poster">Pakman Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well, lesser contact than back in the day, but still there's a good deal of contact.</div> Well it's not known to be a contact sport. Contact is suppose to be illegal in basketball, but it's almost impossible to call every player making contact with another.
<div class="quote_poster">Eternal Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">The NBA definitely isn't a contact sport.</div> Bad choice of words on my part. It's a physical game, and sometimes players will get hurt even a player did nothing flagrant.
<div class="quote_poster">Eternal Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well it's not known to be a contact sport. Contact is suppose to be illegal in basketball, but it's almost impossible to call every player making contact with another.</div> Supposedly...
<div class="quote_poster">durvasa Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Bad choice of words on my part. It's a physical game, and sometimes players will get hurt even a player did nothing flagrant.</div> Well when you would label the game as a non-contact sport or contact it would be non-contact.
<div class="quote_poster">Eternal Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">Well when you would label the game as a non-contact sport or contact it would be non-contact.</div> Strictly speaking, it isn't non-contact either. Certain contact is considered incidental. For perimeter players, perhaps you could say its non-contact. It certainly isn't for big guys working in the post. But this is a digression. The point is that you don't suspend a player simply for hitting another player in the face, if it was inadvertant and occured during a natural, legitimate basketball play. LeBron's hit on Wade was flagrant, but not a flagrant-2 -- and NOT suspension worthy.
