we had no other small forwards, and shooting guards to play. bayless was stuck behind 2 point guards who had been here longer.
He didn't want to start Batum and even pulled him just before the first game of the season. He wanted to start Outlaw but he sucked when he started and forced Nate's hand into starting Batum since Webster was out all year. He also started Batrum but only played him maybe 15 minutes a game no matter how well Batum played. Batum had some great games but Nate would pull him after just a few minutes. He wanted Outlaw out there all game and Outlaw sucked when he started but many times played well when coming of the bench.
Nate was almost forced to play rookies last year. He had to play Oden some minutes or get fired and we also had Batum, Bayless and Rudy as rookies and didn't have much if we didn't play some of the rookies. I don't think he liked it and complained about KP don't getting him some veteran players.
OK, taking that as a given, it appears KP is going out and doing just that. So what's the use of not trading a guy like Bayless if you bring in Kirk to play minutes head of him? He further loses value sitting on the bench, and there's little likelihood he ever moves out of that role. In effect, he ends up being a repeat of Sergio.
It seems that the best scenario would be that Hinrich starts and Bayless is the primary reserve. If Bayless pans out, he takes over as starter in a year or two and Hinrich ends up a very good reserve. I don't see why Hinrich makes Bayless useless...it would be a classic "veteran at the helm until the young prospect is ready (if ever)."
If Hinrich were brought in, Blake would probably have been included in the trade to get him (or in a separate trade, if not), which would leave Jerryd as the back-up at PG. In that scenario (read: likely, most), he would receive more playing time than he did last season and virtually set-up to be the guy that takes over for Hinrich when his contract expires.
Something Bulls' fans need to remember. If Hinrich was making $6 million a year, there would be a much bigger market for him. Of course, if he was making $6 mil, the Bulls wouldn't be looking to trade him! He is on the market for the same reason he is only attracting low-ball offers. Like it or not, a bad contract lowers a player's trade value.
Wow, the Chicago board must be DEAD... otherwise you probably wouldn't be spending all of your time over here baiting us.
I was under the assumption that the Bulls would want him if they dealt Hinrich. Something about thin at guard otherwise. If Chicago doesn't want him.
No he wouldn't. It's Hinrich -> Portland, Tim or Tyrus Thomas -> Utah, Boozer (and Bayless if Tyrus) to Chicago Check it on the trade checker, it works. The Bulls are sending out $15.5M and taking back $12.5M. They're not going to take on Blake's salary and pay the LT for him. Bayless makes $2M and keeps the Bulls under the LT.
It doesn't work because Bayless isn't going in the trade. Portland has to send something because they can't take Hinrich's contract straight up.
"Check it out on the trade checker, it works." And, therefore, it HAS to be the deal that was being discussed, right!? I mean, come on... after all, IT WORKS ON THE TRADE CHECKER AND "Denny Crane" SAYS SO!!!!1!!!11!!111!111!1!!
I spose I'd agree with that, but it seems to me that in order to ensure that happens, you'd really have to move out both Blake and Rudy, wouldn't you? Even if you move Blake, wouldn't Rudy get the lions's share of the backup guard minutes? I just look at it as there not being enough minutes to go around, even without Blake. Realistically speaking, those young guys are playing for their next contract, and ultimately they can't all have a future with the Blazers.
From the local Salt Lake City newspaper, today: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705315898/Jazz-talking-Boozer-trade.html?pg=2 Utah Jazz: Trade rumors have Jazz discussing Boozer to Bulls ESPN.com reported Thursday afternoon that the Jazz have spoken with Portland and Chicago about a potential trade that would send two-time All-Star power forward Boozer to the Bulls and bring forward Tyrus Thomas to Utah from the Windy City. Citing unnamed "NBA front-office sources," ESPN.com reported that the discussed swap also would send guard Kirk Hinrich from Chicago to Portland, that "no deal was imminent Thursday" and that "both Portland and Utah are still evaluating multiple trade scenarios."
And by the way, I continue to think this is all not gonna happen at all, because I'd be perfectly ok with either Blake too.
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