Bynum's punishment?

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  1. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You're one stubborn mother fucker. You really think you're going to convince these people that it was unintentional? In their eyes', Bynum murdered a 12 year old.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So his foul on JJ was unintentional? Or are you talking about the foul on Wallace and Beasly?
     
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    Wallace--I really don't think he intentionally did that.

    Barea/Beasley were intentional.

    The one on Beasley was dirty, but would've been fine if he didn't throw that elbow out. He needs to learn that. Hard fouls are fine...just do them right. I"m sure he felt vindicated by it after Kobe applauded the hard foul after the game.

    It definitely is funny to see everybody's reaction to this. If this were the late 80's, it would just be another foul.
     
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    It's the Lakers and we are haters. What do you expect? I haven't witnessed either incident with Wallace and Beasly, so I can't put it into pespective. But it seems this happens when the Lakers are getting their asses handed to themselves. Minny was kicking the shit out of the Lakers and so was Charlotte during those fouls. And here we have JJ getting his when the Lakers were being embarrassed on the court.

    Yeah Hard fouls are fine. Trying to intentionally hurt a player isn't. The NBA career is such a small window. And Bynum of all people should know about injuries. How would you feel if Bynum was going for a dunk and JJ ran underneith him and caused him to land on his head? How would you feel about it?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Agreed. What you just described is the difference between a hard foul and a dirty foul. Hard fouls are fine and the intent is to send a message. There is no intent to injure anything more than the recipient's pride. Planting a guy on his ass is a good hard foul. I've never heard of anyone sustaining a career ending ass injury, or requiring microfracture surgery on their ass. A good, hard, slightly moving pick is also a hard foul that sends a message. It knocks the opponoent to the ground, but with very little chance of a serious injury.

    Undercutting as player, hitting him in the exposed midsection while he is extended and in the air, or clotheslining are all exapmples of dirty fouls as they expose the recipient to a greater chance of severe injury. And, that's the problem with Bynum's fouls, they cross that line between hard fould and dirty foul. If he would have planted Barea on his ass, it would have been a hard foul. Nailing him in the ribs with an elbow while he was in flight and extended made it a dirty foul.

    The problem is Bynum has now played five NBA seasons and still hasn't learned the difference. I suspect the league is about to teach him a very expensive lesson.

    Not really. Hard fouls were much more frequent, expected and tolerated back then, but a dirty foul has always been a dirty foul. The rules and penalties have changed, but players, fans and teammates have always been outraged by dirty fouls - like the McHale clothesline of Rambis and the Rodman shove of Pippen. The problem is, if these things go unchecked it can lead to escalation. That's why the rules have been changed. In the old days, the players were self-policing. If you dished it out, you damn well better be ready to take it.

    These days, the league prefers to do the policing through fines and suspensions to avoid any escalation or retaliation. But, make no mistake, plenty of people were outraged by McHale and Rodman back in the day. The difference wasn't the reaction of the fans and players, it is the league's handling of these situations.

    In some ways, the league has gone overboard, but given the potential consequences (potential for career ending injury), I think it's better to be safe than sorry and err on the side of caution.

    BNM
     
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    I could really care less about his "heart felt" apology. He feels bad afterwords but it still doesn't stop him from doing it as he's done the same exact cheap-shot 3-4 times.

    His official apology today was obviously fueled by the threat of a huge fine and suspension.
     
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    The extent of the injury may have been unexpected, but I seriously doubt the foul was unintentional.
     

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