Can gay people be Christian?

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  1. crandc

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    I know some gay folks who "felt the grace" of various god figures. Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, Wiccans, you name it. Their choice. Just not mine. I prefer to be grounded in the world that is. Change it when needed, not escape it.
     
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    So can falling in love. So can free falling for the first time. But FYI, there are gay people in churches and are getting saved. So I think it's pretty powerful that a belief can sway people from being a part of an organization that has doctrine that's against being homosexual.
     
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    That's a very honest and appreciated response. I can respect your view
     
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    WARNING - I put out a theory that may be very far off. Also, it's kind of hard to understand. I never thought about it before, but this kind of makes sense. But, I am just flushing out this theory, so it is very likely that I will abandon all or part of this theory with better information.

    Why do gays belong to a religion that has a doctrine opposing homosexuality? A lot of that has to do with the guilt they feel for being gay. Not that they should feel guilt, but that our culture has told them from a very young age that they are insufficient, and that their love is dirty and wrong. So over time, that becomes the norm and a lot of gay people are constantly battling that nagging guilt laid upon them. In religion, they see something that is touted as a positive in our culture, and as a bonus they are able to actually feel like they are both living their life and being adequately ashamed of their life by being involved with their religion.
     
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    It could be very possible years ago, but I think this day and age; homosexuality is actually very accepted. In fact, maybe even cool to be gay now. More and more teens are coming out of the closet and being outspoken about it. I never heard of gay folks when I went to high school:
     
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    There were lots of them when I went to High School. But it wasn't a permanently stratifying trait.
     
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    I wouldn't say it's cool to be gay, even today. The only people that think it's "cool" to be gay are gay people. There has been a huge decline in the hatred of being gay though.
     
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    I think local matters a lot also. Perhaps in Portland, Seattle or San Francisco it's totally accepted and no negative stigma is attached, but in smaller towns and in parts of the south or midwest there might still be some large negatives about coming out.
     
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    What does "coming out" mean? Please answer in light of the subject of this thread, Can gay people be Christian.
     
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    Coming out = openly gay
     
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    Does openly gay conflict with being a Christian? Or to say it directly, if you embrace being openly Gay, does it mean you reject being a Christian? Understanding there are Gay people that are Christian and even Priests in the church.
     
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    I would think different people within Christianity would answer quite differently.
     
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    Being openly divorced conflicts with being a Christian more.
     
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    To Catholics perhaps, but to the Anglican Church members, not so much.

    But then sort of irrelevant as to what a "coming out" Gay thinks about being Christian.
     
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    Does someone that openly has sex before marriage reject being Christian? Yet there are arguably more than 50% that probably do it.

    I think in God's eyes, the most important thing is to accept Jesus Christ as your savior. All sin is wiped completely clean. Basically, no matter the sin: you now are perfect through Christ.
     
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    Well I guess that depends on what stemmed the divorce. The bible says you can divorce for infidelity or if one doesn't share your same Christian views.
     
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    The bible that Christians use says a lot more about divorce than it does about being gay. Yes, different flavors of Christianity interpret it and assign importance to those passages differently. You're making broad generalized statements and assumptions about Christians and their beliefs concerning being gay. Why not do the same with divorce?
     
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    I hear what you think Mags. But that does not answer for Gay person, what is their intent of insisting you and I know, they are "openly Gay" and how that coincides with their intentions toward Christianity.
     
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    Matthew 19:6
    "Consequently they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate."




    Luke 16:18
    "Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery; and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery.
     
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    I have not made a statement. I ask a question of what is the intent of the Gay Person. So far, I haven't see an answer. I don't think the answer has anything to do with divorce nor how benevolent GOD is in Mag's eyes.
     

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