Politics Can our Republican friends here please explain something...

Here in the OT, we mostly know where we all stand politically. My left leaning and dislike of Trump is no secret. So I get that I don't get some things about Trump.

Please help me understand this:

Doesn't all of the stuff you hear about him and his administration bother you? Are you simply willing to overlook these things just so a conservative agenda can be enacted? Specifically I am asking about

Russia: Just yesterday the head of the NSA says he has not been told to try to shutdown future Russian hacking. And the sanctions passed by Congress have not been enacted by the President. And his National Security Advisor has plead guilty to a felony. Etc. His pandering to Russian interests is so obvious to me. Not you?

Security: You were the ones crying about the lack of security of Hillary's emails. Does it not bother you that Trump's staff cannot pass background checks?

Infidelity: Two affairs - one with a porn star and one with a Playboy Bunny - in just the past few years.

To quote the King of Siam: "Etc., etc., etc."

How do you ignore all that? Not looking for a fight - I really don't get it.

 

@PtldPlatypus - Thanks for the insight.

I do think you are conflating two issues when it comes to Russia. Of course they tried to interfere with our election. That's what governments do. But I am not talking about that. What I am talking about is - why does Trump seem to be in their pocket and doesn't that bother you? Even if there was no "collusion", nonetheless, either due to blackmail or more likely, finances, he seems strangely on their side. No?

 

@Denny Crane - you just did exactly what @Chris Craig predicted you would do - blame Clinton, blame me, blame the CIA ("we hack"), etc.

 

Another bullet point I don’t get:

- there are three people left from his original cabinet - his daughter, his son in law, and his PR guy. Everyone else fired or quit. Does this seem strange or a red flag?

 

4 posts. That’s how long it lasted before it got pissy.

 

try facts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_of_Donald_Trump

 

You thought a self righteous bait thread (and redundant as all hell by the way) would go differently?

 

WH aides. Misused cabinet. But yeah. Definitely stable team around him.

 

Seemed genuine to me. Not a bait thread or self righteous. But this is exactly why we don’t get anywhere anymore.

 

I don't get it either.

 

Want an honest answer from someone who is partisan?

I lean liberal republican, but I dont let it dictate my party. I vote individual for who I feel is best at the time of voting and dont pair the party line.

With that said, Every administration has the other side gunning for them to take them down. This means that lots of fluff stories come out trying to defame the sitting president. Whether it be Bush, Obama, Trump, etc.

What you are hearing about Trump is not that much different than what I heard about Hilary and what I heard about Bush and what I heard about Carter, etc.

I take most of it with a grain of salt because most of it is a Hollywood drama fest. I focus on numbers not hearsay drama.

Currently the numbers show Trump is doing great on the domestic economy, but my fear is the global economy will suffer and further segregate America form the rest of the world.

I get make America great again, but we also need to compromise with the rest of the world we left behind by stomping on them for the last few hundred years.


Again....Shove the drama aside and focus on the important numbers like tariffs and taxes, etc. These are the direct impacting decision making he has power of that will actually affect you and I. The rest of it is for the news to argue about cause it doesnt affect me.

 

Well, at least your question is the most genuine. I look at like this, the guy is not a politician, he did not know his way around WA is as much as how dirty the game truly is. He picks guys that he reprieved would be able to get the job done. After learning the game, he has made changes. Lets face it, he gets zero support from the left and not much from the right and is in open conflict with the never Trump establishment like McCain. Add to that the fact that he has also been embattled with obummers hold overs.

So long story short, he has had a pretty steep learning curve, and not a lot of help. Now that he is getting the hang, I do expect more stability.

 

Quoted you twice because of how redundant this thread is. The self righteous part was probably uncalled for but the ground has been covered again and again