Politics Can our Republican friends here please explain something...

No, I made an attempt to show you why Trump's statement was in fact praising Nazis.

Trump didn't know one way or another who those individuals were or what their beliefs were. From the obvious clues (marching with torches, chanting "Jews will not replace us", etc) most of us concluded that it was a neo-nazi gathering and anyone who would voluntarily choose to participate must have some leanings in that direction, whether or not they self-identify as Nazis. Without specific information about any of the participants, the best case any rational person could make about the participants is that some of them were merely confused or 'running with a bad crowd'.

Saying some of them were 'very fine people' - given that he didn't know them - isn't in any way justified. So why did he say it? He said it to support the marchers generally. Not to support specific 'good ones', because he didn't even know if there were any 'good ones'. He said it because he was mad that he'd been forced to denounce something he actually supported (and to denounce people that supported him). It was a lie, as most everything he says is.

I think you are suffering from cognitive dissonance, not wanting to admit to yourself that the person you voted for is an out-and-out racist. But he is.

barfo

 

There's no lying going on here. His actual words are on tape, we both have access to them. The facts aren't in question. Your interpretation of his words differs from mine, that's all. If you really want to believe he saw some good people in that march on his TV and wanted to single them out for praise, you can do that. Free country.

No, you are using literalism as a shield to mask your defense of Trump.

Whether Trump said he grabs them by the pussy or if he said one can grab them by the pussy or if he said they let you grab them by the pussy .. . just isn't really all that relevant, unless someone is arguing in court that his statement is literally a confession of a specific instance of criminal behavior.

What matters is not his precise phrasing, but that it is a "classless disgusting comment", as you yourself put it.

So why are you defending him? Why is it a call to arms to you when a poster imprecisely quotes Trump? Do you do the same for, say, Nancy Pelosi?

Is it really Truth? Or is it Trump?

barfo

 

True. My saying he's racist doesn't make him racist. His decades of racist actions and statements are what identifies him as a racist.

barfo

 

I don't actually have much interest in her myself at this moment, but I'm pretty sure if a poster slightly misquoted her Bodyman would not leap upon his trusty steed Truth and dash to her rescue. If you want, you can misquote her, and we'll see what happens.

barfo

 

Every month that we do not have an economic recovery package 500 million Americans lose their jobs.

Nancy Pelosi

 

If I had my way, sporting guns would be strictly regulated, the rest would be confiscated

Nancy Pelosi

 

Hamas is a humanitarian organization.

Nancy Pelosi

 

But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.

Nancy Pelosi

 

I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels.

Nancy Pelosi

 

Sincerity is the most important thing in acting. Once you can fake that, you've got it made.

Nancy Pelosi

 

As many of you know, I came from San Francisco. We don't have a lot of farms there. Well, we do have one - it's a mushroom farm, so you know what that means.

Nancy Pelosi

 

If somebody's hacking you, you don't want them to know that you know. You want to find out what they're doing, how they're doing it, and then you'll let them know you know.

Nancy Pelosi

 

Whatever would make you think I'm a fan?

It was just a few days ago where I said the best thing that could happen to the repubs is to have Pelosi be Speaker of the House when Trump and Pence get tossed out.

She's a dipshit.