When? During impeachment when a Trump supporting preachers cited Jerry Nadler, Chuck Schumer, and Adam Schiff and said this was a "Jew coup" against a great Christian president. When? When Trump supporters marched in Charlottesville chanting "Jews will not replace us".
There are pieces of shit in this country and there always has been. They don’t make up a big enough demographic to overtake an election.
TDS. More realistically, average people who have worked hard and accomplished things in their lives would prefer to stay with the POTUS who has protected their individual legacies rather than elect a fraud who would rob them of their small victories while amassing a fortune of his own. Dems have replaced their Hope and Change platform with one of Hate and Fear.
Sorry for late replay just got back from kids watching SB. Ill try and address your comments. You may be correct that it could be closer than what people think, Im just not convinced he wins mid west, se, & south. But i could be wrong? I totally agree that people fell disenfranchised with the current system and results. Im probably one of them as a libertarian. You state there hasn't been any change at all since 2016, I believe there has been change, most I don't agree with put some I do with regards to loosening business regulations and addressing criminal justice. I also am in favor of new trade agreements and like Bernie not a big supporter of NAFTA. I too hope Dems can learn from past mistakes but they have to decide how far left they want to go. And after some thought maybe I shouldn't have said anyone other than Bernie could beat Trump. I just think a more moderate democrat would be more palatable. Thanks for your feedback and asking for more from me.
I don’t think so, but it will be a pretty big test case for the future of the Democratic Party. It’s literally “I am the oldest and whitest male ever to run for President. I have been a lawmaker for 30 years, yet have not proposed any of my ideas as legislation in 30 years (because it wouldn’t pass Congress). Now I want to enact that same legislation, knowing that it still won't pass Congress. But vote for me, because I'll give free stuff and I'm not Trump." First, I think that there's a significant portion of the voting population (especially young people from coastal areas) that those two points resonate with, and it'll be interesting to see how much they come out. Honestly, in my perfect world Bernie runs as the Libertarian Party candidate after getting hosed out of the primaries by Biden/DNC/Ghost of Hillary and Obama, and takes more than 15% of the vote, so that we can have a legit 3-candidate race in 2024. But to answer the question, I don't think he has the appeal to get the brunt of the Democratic base out in enough mass to get him wins in battleground states. And the primaries look like they'll chew up most of election cycle, minimizing the amount of time the Bernie can start attacking Trump. I just don't know what Bernie can say or do or fundraise enough to make independents and line-crossers to a) vote against Trump or b) stay home. Hillary in 2016 had much more pull than Bernie in 2020, and couldn't do it, and thought I think that Biden (while he would likely have been a horrible President) could've won in 16, I don't think there's any way he does now. What would be Bernie's strategy? How is he going to take back 4 or so of Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin ?
Dog, I know the difference between the two. Im not convinced that we can afford within reason free education, medical and the large government, and huge tax increases across the board to finance a democratic socialist government. I dont agree with him when he says only the rich will pay for all the cost as all you have to do is look at Scandinavian countries and the huge tax that all their citizens pay much more as a percentage of income as we do here. Even their they have kept capitalism alive and productive as the golden goose laying the golden eggs. They have encourage good relationships with corporations and small business. Bernie has always used Scandinavia as his one of his models but the true is and you never him him address it much is that the people there are tired of the tax burden to cover extreme cost. Bernie has over the years talked up Chavez and the Venezuela democratic socialism that was implemented and once the government was so big and powerful they took control of production and price controls and now look at the country. As a libertarian Im for, capitalism free markets, pro business, rather than against business, against so many regulations, its tough for mom and pop and innovation, small efficient government with social security and a few programs to help the needy and not become a welfare state. I support low taxes and agree with a progressive tax structure. Im anti nation building, realize we need a military thats efficient and not part of a war machine politic. Im pro choice and support even those that want to support pro life as their personal decision. I support same sex marriage. Bernie comes across like its his way or the highway and Im not convinced the American people would embrace his free everything with no moderation or alternatives at this point in time. It will be interesting to see if he can indeed win over the midwest, SE, & South with his plan and doctrine, because of all the candidates he clearly has one. We'll see.
If Bernie was more business supportive and embraced capitalism he could run as a libertarian, but he's do neither as he's a devout socialist.
If Bernie wins the nomination, he will almost be forced to pick a moderate to be his running mate. Someone in the Tulsi, Klobuchar, Bennet, Delaney pool. If he picks someone like Yang, Abrams, Cuomo, Castro, or Beto... he’s 100% fucked
Except in practice in his own life, where he's a die-hard capitalist scamming the political system to make his family and himself millionaires.
The short answer is nobody knows, and anyone who claims they know is fooling themselves or trying to fool you. A lot of things can and probably will happen between now and November that will affect the race. Bernie, like Trump, has a large group of very committed supporters, and another, larger group of voters who think he's pretty questionable. Both Bernie and Trump rely on demographics that don't typically vote in large numbers (low-information voters for Trump; young voters for Bernie). Obviously since Trump won, Bernie can also win. It doesn't necessarily take a majority, although either Bernie or Trump could conceivably win a majority in 2020. It seems to me that Bernie vs Trump would be an open invitation for a centrist third-party candidate to be drafted. There's a lot of ideological space vacant between the two. I doubt the 3rd party candidate would win - they never do - but if it is a semi-serious person rather than a joker, they would likely get enough to swing the election. I'll absolutely vote for Bernie if he's the nominee, but he's not my first choice. I have doubts about his effectiveness as president, and about his age/health. Even though he's got the most progressive platform of any candidate in the race, I'd bet that any of the others (minus Yang) would be more successful at moving the ball forward legislatively. I don't think Bernie will inspire the same sort of blind party loyalty in congresspeople than Trump has, nor do I think Bernie will try to trample the constitution and the laws in order to do what he wants. And I'm not sure he's all that interested in negotiating compromises with congress. So although the conservatives cry "Oh, Socialism! Catch me Rhett, I'm fainting!", I suspect that Bernie is actually their best case scenario for a Democratic president, if one is to be elected. barfo
Not that many members of Trump's cabinet are Jewish. How about backing up your assertion with some relevant links.
I can truly guarantee a whispering campaign among evangelicals about Sanders being Jewish. Trump is the most unpopular president to ever run for re-election. He has a cult of about 35 percent of the population. So his only path is to make his opponent more unpopular. That's what he did four years ago with help from Russia, compliant media, and Comey. It's why Republican senators are now suddenly planning to investigate Burisma, it doesn't matter if they find anything, Trump just needs to constantly repeat Burisma like he did email. The country knows he is corrupt so he has to make people believe there is no difference between him and his opponent, they are all crooked. So yeah, he will turn a mild democratic socialist into Stalin, Mao, whoever AND he's a Jew.
I think your right but I dont think being Jewish makes much of a difference to the general population anymore. I think being a woman or being black is a much bigger hurdle. Also the people who might care about his heritage are single issue abortion voters and would never vote for a democrat anyway. The socialist angle will be what is used to sway people one way or another, thats what gets the most traction and what people are passionate about.
Someone being female or black is very obvious. You don't have to sneak a whisper about Obama's ethnicity or Warren's gender. But I do think, and maybe I'm wrong, but I am Jewish and I've heard the shit, that there would be whispers, going into churches and playing on prejudice. Socialism is not an issue any more among youth, they've seen what capitalism does and are willing to look at democratic socialist.
