Can Vonleh play SF?

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  1. PtldPlatypus

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    He should. Olshey should (and probably already did) make it very clear to Stotts that this year is ALL about development of the youth. Unnecessarily playing Kaman should not be tolerated.
     
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    I think Kaman should get some minutes to show the young guys how it's done and to maintain his trade value leading up to the deadline.
     
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    Got a strong feeling this is how it goes w/ our bigs: Mason exclusively @ the 5 (only would play the 4 if we get in foul trouble @ the 4), Meyers exclusively @ the 4 (only would play the 5 if we get in foul trouble @ the 5), interchangeably Davis & Vonleh get their minutes @ as the backup 4 & 5 when needed & Vonleh will see some min. @ the SF because (@ least for the 1st 1/2 of the season), there r minutes to be had here/foul trouble will occur here so it will b necessary to have more bodies @ the SF. There WILL be times when we'll see Vonleh & Meyers on the floor together (in times when the interior has shotblockers/when it gets crowded w/ opponent bigs)

    I endorse the above w/ a slight twist: Keep teams off-balance/guessing by mostly playing Mason @ 5 & Meyers @ 4 but do some switching when the matchup favors it on O or D w/ these 2. Also, I think we might even see a Vonleh (@ the 3), Meyers (@ the 4), Davis/Mason (@ the 5) lineup or @ least I'd love to see this!:ygrin:
     
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    Will there be minutes at the sF? I am not saying don't try Vonleh there, but we do have Aminu and Harkless. Plus I think Crabbe will get more minutes at the 3 than the 2.
     
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    Many think Aminu's game is more suited for the 4 than the 3 anyway. If they were on the floor together, would it really matter which is considered the SF and which is the PF? An Aminu/Vonleh forward pairing could definitely cause problems for the opposition.
     
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    You are right, it doesn't make a difference. However I disagree that Aminu's skill set is "more" suited for the 4 spot. Yes he will be effective guarding stretch 4's, but he is also needed guarding the other team's best wings. (and at times PG's) I think Terry will use him like Nic on D.
     
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    Many people are stupid.
    But seriously, with the number of players we have who are naturally fitted to PF (or C), I don't see any point in playing Aminu at PF when we have so little talent at SF. Perhaps in end-game situations, but outside of that it seems dumb to play him at PF.
     
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    There will DEFINITELY b times this season where we'll switch on everything/every1 on D :wink:
     
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    I'll agree w/ u on the 4 & 5 spots having well suited players for the positions & not needing to put Aminu @ 4 often & in end-game situations BUT I don't think it's dumb to again play him some@ 4 for mismatch purposes.

    Rather than rebuild or how ever ppl want to brand our team/season, I think the theme for this year to b preached should b "versatility."

    ps there ARE MANY people that ARE stupid BUT... NOT in THIS forum! We're all fuckin' brilliant in here man!:blazerwookie:
     
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    That wasn't at all my point. Positions are less important than skillset. For example, in addition to Vonleh, some have mentioned that the offensive skillset Leonard brings to the table is closer to a 3 than a 5. So, if Leonard, Vonleh, and Aminu are all on the floor together, who fills what role? Based on their heights, you would naturally classify Aminu as a 3, Vonleh a 4, and Leonard a 5. But Aminu is actually the best rim protector of the three, while Leonard is the best shooter, and Vonleh is the best ball-handler. Then again, Aminu is probably also the best slasher/finisher, Leonard the best post defender, and Vonleh the best rebounder.

    Honestly, that's the lineup I'm looking forward to more than any other, specifically because of the positional ambiguity.
     
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    When I hear "Aminu @ PF" to me it sounds like it's at the expense of Vonleh/Meyers. I think that'd be a HUGE mistake - Aminu shouldn't take ANY minutes at PF from Meyers/Vonleh. For instance: Dame/CJ/Crabbe/Aminu/Plumlee. Fuck that! We need to develop our young bigs more than we need to gimmick our way to a couple meaningless wins.
    However, the scenario you described is fine, because it's Aminu at SF even if the traditional roles are shuffled between Aminu/Vonleh/Meyers.
     
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    I see Kaman playing in the first half and Vonleh in the second half. Keeps the young guy out of foul trouble and the old guy doesn't get gassed. I'm sure Kaman is the first big guy off the bench in the beginning of games.
     
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    You are who you can guard. I guess we'll have a better idea by about week 8 in the season, but based on his physical profile my guess would be, "no."
     
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    Exactly, Earvin Johnson was not a PG!
     
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    While I agree with you in terms of starters, I think a Dame/CJ/Crabbe/Aminu/Biebs type of lineup might be used to finish games.
     
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    I'm not on the Crabbe Wagon.
     
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    I'm not sure about him, but I like the idea of Aminu + 4 shooters.
     
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    I believe that Vonleh is 95% PF, but I do think it would be fun to see a lineup of:

    Dame
    CJ
    Vonleh
    Leonard
    Davis/Plumlee

    The all can run, positions 1-4 can all shoot the three well and positions 3-5 would be great rebounders. Not sure what would happen on the defensive end, but it would be fun to look at for a bit.
     
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    Lets not confuse the young players and start shifting them around where they get confuse at different positions.
     

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