Can we land Lebron in 2010?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 17 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your math is off.
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All my numbers in the post you quoted are 400k off. (from using the wrong rookie minimum).</div>

I didn't notice you had added any roster charges as I was looking back at your first post since that was the math I was talking about. However, as I already posted, you have the #1 pick salary wrong.

Once we get through the basic math, we can then deal with your faulty assumptions

 

Ah my gawd. Man, you're worse then some Nets fans BG7. First of all, why would Chandler leave? Does he have an connection to Chi-town to come back. Will he have the same successes with some no name coach? With an incompetent GM? Are you gonna make up some dumb ass story to go along with Chandler so you can believe he'll come back?

Second, LeBron is not going to the Bulls, I'm sorry. The Cavs will throw everything at him money wise. Plus, the Cavs are probably looking to build for the future. Plus, how much do you think Thomas is worth? 10 million a year? Son, your shit is whack. Be realistic here, even though I understand it's hard for you. Thabo is not as great as you make him out to be. He'll be an okay 7th man at best, sorry to say.

Last, you have no depth if some how your Chandler wet dream came true. Thabo is the only bench player you list, like he's a 20 point scorer. Chandler is staying with NO where they have a good coach, PG, front office and overall team.

 

I can give you approximately 80-90 million reasons why Chandler would consider rejoining the Bulls. Similar to how there were 60 million reasons why Wallace signed with the Bulls.

Lebron won't necessarily sign with the Cavs. It depends how good they are. If they are a legit title contender, then yes, he will probably stay. But if he has the opportunity to go to Chicago to play with Gordon/Deng/Beasley or Rose/Wade in Miami, and those teams are doing pretty well in the East, I could definitely see him jumping ship to one of those two teams.

I don't think Thabo is a 20 point scorer. I don't think Thomas is that great. I was just giving a tad bit liberal estimate on their salary figures that they might resign for. If they sign for less, that's good, more capspace for the Bulls.

If they can't get Lebron, as stated, there are a lot of different options. The Bulls I would hope would be able to land one of the top tier guys (Lebron/Wade/Amare/Dirk/Bosh/Yao), but worst case, they probably can get guys like Joe Johnson or Tyson Chandler. This has to be the greatest free agent class ever, and it really isn't too hard to see scenarios where guys like Amare/Dirk/Bosh/Lebron are on teams that aren't up to snuff, and would jump to a team like Miami or Chicago if they cleared capspace (Riley already said he would have capspace to sign a max guy in2010, so they will have capspace).

Once you have say a core 6 of Lebron/Gordon/Thomas/Beasley/Noah/Deng/Sefolosha in place...yeah you don't have a deep team...but you have a full starting 5, and a bench big and bench wing. You then have to sign guys for minimums. You can get some pretty good veterans for the minimum who are looking for championships. Might not be the deepest team year one...but sign 1-2 decent vets for the minimum, and the team would do pretty well, and undoubtedly could compete. (Look at what Boston did this year...they weren't deep at first, but then the vets on the minimum started coming in...and they won the NBA Championship).

Then in year 2, the team would have the MLE and LLE to sign quality players for the bench with.

I think if Beasley pans out like he should, we should be able to compete anyhow with Hinrich and Nocioni. But if we add a guy like Lebron to an already very good team, then you are going to start winning a lot of championships if you stay healthy.

 

I honostly doubt that many of those all-star basketball players change team's through free agent signing. In the past 10 year's, very few of the actual stars changed teams through signing. Most of the time, these stars stick with their team, and change through being traded. To date, only like, Rashard Lewis, Gilbert Arenas, Tracy Mcgrady to Orlando before he became an all-star, Carlos Boozer to Utah before he became an all-star, and I can't think of many other's. The point there, is again, All-star player's don't change team's often through signing. It's usually through trade they will change their team. So I find it likeley that the Bulls won't sign any of all-stars. It seems most likely that most of those guys will just sign with their original team's, to big time, multi-million contracts.

As far as getting Tyson Chandler, if Joakhim Noah progress's as I think he will, you won't really need Tyson Chandler on the Bulls. I think Noah has the athleticism, defensive ability, and is a solid rebounder to be alot like a Tyson Chandler in his career.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jun 18 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honostly doubt that many of those all-star basketball players change team's through free agent signing. In the past 10 year's, very few of the actual stars changed teams through signing. Most of the time, these stars stick with their team, and change through being traded. To date, only like, Rashard Lewis, Gilbert Arenas, Tracy Mcgrady to Orlando before he became an all-star, Carlos Boozer to Utah before he became an all-star, and I can't think of many other's. The point there, is again, All-star player's don't change team's often through signing. It's usually through trade they will change their team. So I find it likeley that the Bulls won't sign any of all-stars. It seems most likely that most of those guys will just sign with their original team's, to big time, multi-million contracts.

As far as getting Tyson Chandler, if Joakhim Noah progress's as I think he will, you won't really need Tyson Chandler on the Bulls. I think Noah has the athleticism, defensive ability, and is a solid rebounder to be alot like a Tyson Chandler in his career.</div>

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 19 2008, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>

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Shaq wasn't in the last 10 year's, that's why I said in the past ten year's, forgot about Nash. The fact is, in the past 10 year's, Nash who wasn't an MVP candidate at the time, Boozer, Arenas, Mcgrady, and Rashard Lewis are like the only big name free agent's to have traded team's, and some of them weren't huge names at the time. Nash wasn't up to that level, Boozer wasn't, the chances of landing a huge player through the free agency is very little. In 10 year's, you can really only think of 5 or 6 players to have changed team's, so it's not likely you will get a big time free agent.