Canceling Season Tickets

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  1. PDXFonz

    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Preach
     
  2. RPCity

    RPCity New Member

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    No everyone can afford to buy tickets, so to a degree, that's true.

    However.

    It's easy to talk about how big of a fan you are. But if you're only willing to make a commitment when things are good, then what are you really a fan of?

    And look. The term bandwagon has gotten a bad wrap, but if maybe it shouldn't.

    No one should force you to commit to all the emotional ups and downs that is involved in sports. To commit if it brings frustration and negativity.

    But acknowledge that you're a fan of the good times. You like the winning and not the lead up to it.

    (You is used generally, not specifically here)
     
  3. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Jody, is that you?


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  4. RPCity

    RPCity New Member

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    Yup. Jody Allen joined the forum in 2011.

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  5. TBpup

    TBpup Writing Team

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    I always appreciate being told what I can and can't do for something that is an opinion. :cheers:

    Fans can do whatever they want. I will continue to be a Blazer fan first and a fan of any particular player 2nd. Players move on, get traded, get asked out, get injured and can't play....it is never ending. Something like 137-173 in the last 4 seasons. It's not like we are losing out on some championship run that a singular player took us on.

    Hope the next era has more team success....that simple.
     
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  6. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    I'm not telling you what to do, simply that what other fans do with their money doesn't dictate their fandom in the way you claim.
     
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    BassPlaya Puntificator

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    If I could afford season tickets, only Jailblazer character would make me sell them. And if I did decide to sell them, I wouldn't even take the time to announce it here. That's just me.
    My hope is that anyone feeling bad enough about the team they follow that they draw a line in the sand and say, "I'm done".....finds true peace over their decision.
     
  8. TBpup

    TBpup Writing Team

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    Was responding to a specific post mentioning a specific person. Feel free to keep responding if you like.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Except "If someone cancels their tickets because a certain player was traded, they weren't a Blazer fan" is a blanket statement.
     
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  10. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    The owner should be willing to invest in building a winning team if you're going to hold fans to the standard of investing in a losing team. There's a difference between being in rebuild mode and handling things the way this team has over the past few years.
     
  11. TBpup

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    Obviously referring to the one person in the post that is quoted, or I wouldn't have quoted that specific post referencing a single individual and would have made a general statement. But feel free to keep responding if you feel it is that big of a deal. But maybe this will help. If someone is canceling Blazer tickets (Blazer encompassing the entire team) and if they are doing so because a single player has asked to be traded, it seems they are more a fan of that one single player than they are a Blazer/Blazers fan overall.

    If you enjoy the nitpicking that much, please continue picking it apart. I may have misspelled something and you can really get me then. :twothumbs:
     
  12. SharpeScooterShooter

    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    This is not an easy decision. For me, im tenured with privileges and discounts with a pair of what I believe are two of the best seats in the 300 section. There are others as good or better but far and few between.
    To give that up and have to start all over if i want to re-up down the road, is spendy and a tough ask.
    Plus im for the team, not a player. Now if they dont walk out of this storm with a bright future, and Jody refuses to sell, i might be pushed over the edge. But for now, part of me is excited for our new rookies and i want to watch them play. So to just ask season ticket holders to can el because we couldn't please Dame, is not realistic.

    Sorry.

    I will not be buying any more merch or extras though, until i see where this has landed. I already picked up my Sharpe Jersey last year. Lol.
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Lifetime fandom is like lifetime marriage. You don't just walk out when times are tough, unless all other options have been exhausted and the future holds zero potential.
    In this case, i see a future with a-lot of potential and even more if Jody sells. But Jody is not my end all. The team is. And like it or not, they have a nice foundation to build a future with. Im not turning my back on that.
    Sorry.
     
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    The Jody refusing to sell part is what is really tough. As long as she owns it, Bert is running it and that leaves a knot in my stomach.
     
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    SharpeScooterShooter SharpeShooter

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    Yeah something has to give. If they didn’t land these rookies, id likely have a darker tone.
     
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    I agree except for the part about the biggest fans will be the most upset. The ability for people to regulate their emotions is unrelated to their level of fandom, in my opinion.

    If people want to be really angry, that's fine. If people are bummed, but don't show it through yelling, cursing, overreacting, etc. their fandom isn't discounted either.
     
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    Yup. Team owners have a responsibility to be engaged and not be Robert Sarver. I'll absolutely agree with that.

    And maybe I'm missing it....but what is the big issue with Jody's ownership?

    She didn't fire Neil early enough....she hired internally with Cronin? Ok. She doesn't give interviews or engage with the media....eh.

    She's at every game. She's spending money on the arena.

    She hires people and lets them do their job - she's not Jerry Jones. Neil was the wrong guy to trust and she realized that too late.

    So yeah, the team ducked the tax with the Covington/Powell trades. As a non-competitive team, that's the responsible thing to do. Isn't it? If you're not going to resign Hart, you pick up additional draft capital instead of letting him walk for nothing. Isn't that good asset management?

    I'm missing the issue with her other than, again, it's easy to point at ownership.
     
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    Very reasonable and rational.

    I'm always rooting for the next player, coach, or GM to take it to a new (higher) level.
     
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    You certainly listed some key issues. Like the Cronin stuff, some assumptions have to be made to come to a conclusion either way.

    Under Paul, we spent a lot more (in relation to the rest of the league) and it appeared he had a greater interest in the draft, trades, etc. Most improtantly, Jody isn't really even the owner, she's in charge of the trust that owns the team. I would like to see someone who actually owns the team and the sale of the team isn't hanging over the franchise.
     
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    The team got pennies on the dollar back for Covington and Powell because of the tax. They prioritized finances over assets with that trade, and she has not once paid the tax. The team specifically avoided any contracts that weren't expiring at last years trade deadline, and they traded Hart out because they didn't want to pay him (he opted in and didn't even get that payday people said he would). Why would they just let him walk for nothing? She didn't hire the right people in part because there wasn't even an interview process for the new general manager and they hired a yes-man who wasn't ready and didn't have the experience to try and take on the challenge that the team was in.
     

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