Oh yeah, already got an inspection done before I buy it. Have a few small things I need to take care of.
Sure why not? You get $7500 off your federal taxes, and $7500 from the state of Oregon? What's not to like, it's a $28k car with $15k incentives, plus I can charge it at my work for free so yeah it's a hell of a deal right now. Financially it just makes too much sense not to buy it really.
Do you know the income limits for Oregon credit? I heard that's only mid to low income. Federal credit is nonrefundable, so you must have 7500 tax liability to fully benefit, usually about 70k income. But it caps at 150k single 300k joint income. Tax liability would have to be 2023. But income limit can be for 2022 or 2023, so you only need to be under one of those years. The federal credit may possibly get reduced in March with country of battery rules coming into effect.
I'd prefer the Tesla, yes it's quite a bit more, but the model Y just dropped over 20k in price, you don't have to pay for gas, have way more charging options, and I expect resale will be much higher years down the road like a Toyota. Chevy will drop in value like a Kia, if it doesn't catch fire first.
True, it's not a very attractive car, but that's what second weekend cars are for. Get a cheap commuter, put all the miles on that, then get the Camaro/Mustang/Corvette/Porsche or whatever for the weekend or for Friday after you've paid off the Bolt. Right now until March the incentives are so good that it just makes so much sense financially.
Yes, it depends on your household limit. Here's the first few: Household size limit of 1 = $54,360.00 Household size limit of 2 = $73,240.00 Household size limit of 3 = $92,120.00 Here's the links you need to figure out eligibility, the last link is the income eligibility for the 'charge ahead' rebate which is the one for $5,000: https://www.oregon.gov/deq/aq/programs/Pages/Applying-for-EV-Rebate.aspx https://evrebate.oregon.gov/ https://www.deq.state.or.us/ocvrp
With the Tesla price cuts it makes them a very good value, even with their mediocre build quality and build materials. The Chevy Bolt has had the batteries fixed, that was an LG chem issue with the chemistry used for the batteries. All of the 2022 MY Bolts were recalled and fixed, and any new MY 2023 Bolt uses new chemistry that to my knowledge hasn't had any issues. The Kia/Hyundai products have very good batteries, but I am not a fan of the interiors on either cars. The ergonomics are terrible, and the UI is very bad from what I have seen on reviews. The overall package is very competitive though, it's very compelling IMO for either the Ioniq 5 or EV6. I would probably buy either of them over a Model Y because although the interiors are funky, at least controls for such things as your freaking windshield wipers aren't hidden in the center console which is just dumb.
My wife has a 2020 Hyundai Kona Electric with the SK batteries. Not sure why the ergonomics are terrible (they work for me and my wife and I am 6'1'' with long legs) and definitely disagree about the UX, I have no idea if the Ioniq5 / EV6 are different inside or not, did not sit in one. I have a friend that has an Ioniq5 and seems to be in love with it, but as I said, no first-hand experience. I would say that the worst part about the Kona (and this is our 3rd EV) is that like most EVs, they come with tires that can not handle the power - and getting better tires that provide more grip at a small cost for range is the right thing to do.
You're right, I used the wrong word. I said ergonomics, I meant aesthetics, they attempted to be Audi minimalist, but instead did Korean minimalist and it looks absolutely terrible IMO. Obviously that is subjective, but the interior on both the EV6 and Ioniq 5 are just plain bad. They are so bad I prefer the Chevy Bolt's interior aesthetics by far. As for the UX, check out the reviews on Youtube, it is basically the primary thing everyone complains about with both of these cars. The UX has terrible integration and is missing features, they are newer than the Kona's UX as it is the 'new' version of Hyundai's UX. I am sure it will be improved, and in fact it may already have been improved from the original releases of these cars from which I was watching the videos, so this may no longer be an accurate statement anymore to be fair.
Just bought an e90 and since it has no screen or much functionality with Bluetooth I figured that'd be the best option. Not too concerned about a rear camera, just not sure if it's worth it. I don't have a quote or anything yet.
Biggest reason for it, IMHO, is maps integration. I enjoy the music integration as well, but the only must have thing is maps, so if no screen, not sure if it is worth it
Have you spent a few days driving a Tesla? I love having one spot (screen) with all the controls and no buttons cluttering up the interior. Still, everything you most need to drive(including wipers) is on the steering wheel. The lack of clutter makes all other cars feel like an annoying airplane cockpit. Maybe some people just want a bunch of buttons all over the place, I just suggest trying both before you decide.
What do those of you with non Tesla EVs think of CCS charging? I have a Rivian R1S on order but not sure I'll even consider trading a Tesla for it if the infrastructure doesn't get better. I used a couple EA chargers on a 2500 mile road frip. one was free, one was fast, the last one was a disaster. 2 of 4 units broken and 4 cars waiting. Seen "out of spec" on YouTube which is exposing some of these issues. If infrastructure doesn't improve I don't see how many of these non Tesla EVs can be considered a legit replacement for gas in the next few years.
You sir have truly good tastes in cars. There is a certain player who attended OSU and joined us this season who has an RS6. Beautiful vehicle. Finally available in the US again.
