Cavs trade with Memphis

Blazer4ever · Jan 23, 2013

Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

Treaty_of_Batum said: ↑

Trade didn't make sense for the Blazers as Clevland added salary.

But I did notice that Pargo is available. He can score off the bench . . .
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How do you know he's available?
I've seen a lot of Pargo when he was in Europe and I like him a lot. He can attack the basket, has great athletic ability, and also a good looking shot. If you're looking for someone to run the offense he's just OK but as a scorer for the 2nd unit he can be very effective.

Rhal · Jan 23, 2013

NOVoodoo said: ↑

I've been going back and forth on this trade all day, and for me, it raises questions about the luxury tax, Rudy Gay, and Hollinger.

It was an inevitability that the Grizzlies would make a trade before the deadline to get under the luxury tax. We knew it'd essentially be a cap dump, whether it was Rudy Gay or a package of reserves. However, the mere fact that this was an "inevitability" makes me question not only the qualifications for ownership of small market teams but also the luxury tax in general. One of the objectives of a luxury tax is to protect the small market teams, but at the end of the day, it really just winds up marginalizing them.

With the dump being inevitable though, I think it was an interesting move to dump a package of reserves and a draft pick (with very favorable conditions for the Cavs) rather than dumping Gay. While Rudy Gay leads the team in scoring, he's shooting 41.3% (third worst in the league for players over 250 FG's), only has a 1.03 A/TO ratio, and is just a selfish black-hole of a player on the court in general. He's essentially addition by subtraction, which begs the question, why did the "stats guy," John Hollinger not trade him instead? Was Rudy Gay really untradable? Did every single team in the NBA turn down Rudy Gay's albatross of a contract?

And on the subject of Hollinger, this was the first disturbing move of a new era in Memphis. The cap dump is disturbing enough, but apparently John Hollinger actually has long-term plans for Leuer with the organization, based on his advanced metrics, despite the fact that inserting him into the line-up is probably going to detract from the team's chemistry and defensive mantra. I don't like the way this team's going, with an owner that's looking to cut corners to pinch pennies and a GM who bases his decision making on algorithms.
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If you go through and look at Holingers stuff from the last few years he HATES gay. Many many times he has said he was a player with "bloated" stats because of how many shots he took and wasn't worth his contract. If you guys didn't trade Gay its probably because no offer was very good or they think they can get more from him in the off season in the way of promising talent and a draft pick or two.

Rastapopoulos · Jan 23, 2013

Re: OT: The Cavs traded some no name whitey for a bunch of Grizzlies and a 1st rd pic

Blazer4ever said: ↑

How do you know he's available?
I've seen a lot of Pargo when he was in Europe and I like him a lot. He can attack the basket, has great athletic ability, and also a good looking shot. If you're looking for someone to run the offense he's just OK but as a scorer for the 2nd unit he can be very effective.
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Here's a link:

Scott spoke to guard Jeremy Pargo, who was waived on Tuesday.

"He's not real happy," Scott said.
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In happier times (earlier this season):

Pargo has surprisingly been a quite effective point guard since entering the lineup due to the Kyrie Irving injury. He was a revelation in his first start for the Cavs, scoring 28 points with five rebounds and four assists in leading the Cavs to victory against the 76ers. Since he's been starting, he has settled in at 14.5 points and 4.4 assists while shooting 35 percent from three point range with a PER of 13.0, which are staggering improvements across the board for a player who was among the worst at his position last season. He's shown to be a streaky spark plug that can carry the offense for stretches (along with sometimes disintegrate the offense with a wild drive).

So where has Pargo made his improvements? They have come in two ways specifically.

1. Driving with a purpose, leading to fewer turnovers....
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More.

Funny coincidence:

His inconsistency recently has led to some speculation as to whether or not he's going to keep the temporary starting point guard job, but with his outburst Saturday night against the Pistons it looks like it is again his job to run with. His continued capacity to play within himself and make the right decision will be essential to his success. Also, let's keep in mind that despite being 26, he has only played 58 career NBA games. It takes a little bit of time and experience to become a PG in this league, age be damned. Not everyone steps in like Damian Lillard has and is able to seemingly make the right decision with every move he makes. While not every PG learns, turnovers fall and better shots rise the more an inexperienced PG plays. Hopefully Pargo will continue to get better in this regard the more he plays.
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MickZagger · Jan 23, 2013

Free's up some PT for Wroten.

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