Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 30 2007, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like Jason Richardson, he is a very good basketball player and he does fit in Charlotte's system, but financially I don't think this makes any sense, especially with the trade exception being thrown in there. Wright also would have given them a nice finesse scorer in the post, with star potential, next to Okafor. I don't know, I just don't like this deal for Charlotte. I love it for Golden State, they have a financial orgasm and they got a big man with star potential, who also fits beautifully in their system.</div>They was going to have to throw the trade exception in there no matter who they got in a trade because, more than likely, whoever they traded for was going to be worth much more than what the number 8 pick was going to cost. So that trade exception was going to have to be used no matter what, might as well have used it on someone that will adress their team needs, while pushing them towards the playoffs more and get May, Felton, Okafor, and Morrison back to winning alot more like they did in college. After that, they have the cap room to take on Richardson's contract, while being able to sign Wallace, and re-sign both Okafor and Felton in the future after their rookie contracts are up. He is going to help them more immediately than Brandan Wright is, because Wright is still a project at the NBA level. It's not certain he will end up producing, and I think that he had more than enough room to not end up being a good pro. So getting a proven veteran was going to help them in my opinion, more than getting a rookie that hasn't done anything will.
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jun 30 2007, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>O my bad, its a play on words </div>Not really...
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jun 30 2007, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They was going to have to throw the trade exception in there no matter who they got in a trade because, more than likely, whoever they traded for was going to be worth much more than what the number 8 pick was going to cost. So that trade exception was going to have to be used no matter what, might as well have used it on someone that will adress their team needs, while pushing them towards the playoffs more and get May, Felton, Okafor, and Morrison back to winning alot more like they did in college. After that, they have the cap room to take on Richardson's contract, while being able to sign Wallace, and re-sign both Okafor and Felton in the future after their rookie contracts are up. He is going to help them more immediately than Brandan Wright is, because Wright is still a project at the NBA level. It's not certain he will end up producing, and I think that he had more than enough room to not end up being a good pro. So getting a proven veteran was going to help them in my opinion, more than getting a rookie that hasn't done anything will.</div> All good points, but I liked the idea of the young big man combo of Okafor/Wright. They still need help up front, Primoz Brezec is not a starter in this league and he's not durable. They could have kept Wright, had much more cap room, and waited a couple years (when they will truly be ready to compete) to cash in with a big time free agent. I think if anything, if they were set on dealing the pick, they should have pursued a solid big rather than a 2-guard (which plenty of solid 2's were available with pick #22 anyway, where they drafted a combo forward with limited potential).
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades Sothen assuming you think the trade was better for Boston because they have morepieces...you think Boston is gonna finish ahead of Charlotte in the standings next year? It's very arguable..however I MAY give the edge to Charlotte...though I think both teams still have moves to make.Charlotte:FeltonJ-RichWallaceMayEmekaWith Carroll, Morison, Herrmann, Brezec.I just that that's a great start to begin your team with. The Bobcats may be young, but I think the think your missing is...so is J-Rich. Ray Allen is 32..the Celtics HAVE to make their run now. The Bobcats got a younger but still already developed SG. They stillhave time and felxibility.
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Jul 1 2007, 12:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sothen assuming you think the trade was better for Boston because they have morepieces...you think Boston is gonna finish ahead of Charlotte in the standings next year? It's very arguable..however I MAY give the edge to Charlotte...though I think both teams still have moves to make. Charlotte: Felton J-Rich Wallace May Emeka With Carroll, Morison, Herrmann, Brezec. I just that that's a great start to begin your team with. The Bobcats may be young, but I think the think your missing is...so is J-Rich. Ray Allen is 32..the Celtics HAVE to make their run now. The Bobcats got a younger but still already developed SG. They stillhave time and felxibility.</div> Yeah, I'll take Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, Al Jefferson, Rajon Rondo, and our decent young supporting cast over Charlotte this year. Also, this Celtics roster is not a finished product. We are not done dealing, I expect a free agent signing and/or one more trade by training camp, and Ainge has even publicly stated that this is not a finished roster. We'll do more.
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades Maybe you will do more..but maybe Charlotte will do more as well.All I'm saying is that when I look at it, I don't see Charlotte competing for a title this year, no. But I do think they made a step in the right direction, and still kept their flexibility and a ton of youth. They still have the next 7-8 years to build a title contender if not more. I think they use this year as a gauge of how the young guys like May, Felton, Morrison ETC develop. And if they are developing then the season after maybe they ARE ready to make some noise. If they aren't developing...they can still probably get pretty good value for them and acquire some older talent. That's the flexibility they have because J-Rich still have 5-6-7 years left in his prime. Now if Charlotte was the team to acquire Allen instead of J-Rich..I'd be singin a completely different tune.I think they chose the COMPLETELY right choice though with J-Rich. No doubt they needed a true #1 option, and needed it to come along with a few years of experience as well.
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades -It's Sean Williams not Sea Williams-The Pacers get an F+ for what? Not doing much?
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticBalla32 @ Jun 29 2007, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's a difference though. Charlotte F*cked with their entire cap space. They took on J-Rich's contract (over $50M for the next 4 years) when they already had a ton of cap space, and ALSO gave Golden State a $10 million trade exception. That's ridiculous financially, especially considering Charlotte is in no position to actually win now, and they could have gotten a player at 8 who could very well be a higher caliber player than Richardson in the first place.</div> How did Charlotte F*ck their cap situation? They have no longterm contracts on that entire roster. Richardson's deal isn't that bad, averaged out it's $12.5 million per season. He gives them the 20ppg scorer they have been dying for. I think the Bobcats are in a position to win if they had a little depth this offseason.
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades How come Toronto gets in F? They came in with 0 picks, and we ended up bringing in a decent player for a 2nd round pick that's 3 years from now...
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pacers fan forever @ Jul 1 2007, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>-It's Sean Williams not Sea Williams -The Pacers get an F+ for what? Not doing much?</div> Just fixed the spelling error. And I had no idea what to give Indiana, they didn't do anything and the team clearly needs to do something. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 1 2007, 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How did Charlotte F*ck their cap situation? They have no longterm contracts on that entire roster. Richardson's deal isn't that bad, averaged out it's $12.5 million per season. He gives them the 20ppg scorer they have been dying for. I think the Bobcats are in a position to win if they had a little depth this offseason.</div> Maybe I didn't word it correctly, Charlotte obviously still has financial flexibility, but what I meant was that they threw away a LOT of cash (we're talking over $50 million for J-Rich's contract, then the $10 million trade exception). Don't take "threw away" the wrong way either, because they did get themselves a good player, but I didn't know how else to put that. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 1 2007, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How come Toronto gets in F? They came in with 0 picks, and we ended up bringing in a decent player for a 2nd round pick that's 3 years from now...</div> You actually traded next year's 2nd rounder, so it's not 3 years from now. I probably should have put some of these as "Incomplete" rather than F.
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>because and the Raps made an attempt to get Marco Belinelli but in the end they weren't willing to give up enough. Greek player Giorgos Printezis gives the team a nice player to stash overseas for 2-3 years and see what he can do.</div> NBADraft.net - Grade A-
Re: CB32's 2007 NBA Draft Grades <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 1 2007, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>NBADraft.net - Grade A-</div>Meh, an A- is kind of high, but then again the Raps didn't really need to get anybody. Not that they're set at every position but they do well with what they have and will be a top 5 seed in the East next year.
