<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PosterYouCuz:</div><div class="quote_post">D-HO is a top 10, not a top 5. Dirk's dribbles are pretty close to KG's. But KG has the edge in all defensive aspects. I'd rather have Dirk over Duncan though..</div> Kg's handles are WAY better than dirk's. Kg played point in the WCF against the lakers, his handles are unrivaled among 7 footers.
I'm still taking KG and Duncan over Dirk. Duncan proved how damn good he was last year, battling a season long injury to still put up phenomenal numbers. If he's healthy, he's a practical lock for at least 20/11, at least. He's a phenomenal leader, even though he doesn't really say much on the court. He's also one of the best defensive forwards in the league year in and year out. With KG, he's a phenomenal leader that pours his heart and soul into the game night in and night out. He's got great range for a guy his size. He's teriffic on each of end of the court and he's one of the best rebounders in the league. The only thing that Dirk does better than each of them is score from the perimeter. They're each better rebounders, shot blockers, defenders, and post scorers.
Someone said KG did better than Dirk in his one good chance in the playoffs? Well that's crap because Dirk has only lost in the first round once, and KG has been put out in the round multiple times. If your in the playoffs that is your chance. KG has had multiple chances. Dirk has even taken KG out in the playoffs as well. Duncan is by far the best PF. But KG hasnt proven anything in the NBA but that he can put up stats. Big woop. 1. Duncan 2. Dirk 3. Dirk 4. KG
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting samoan-maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">Someone said KG did better than Dirk in his one good chance in the playoffs? Well that's crap because Dirk has only lost in the first round once, and KG has been put out in the round multiple times. If your in the playoffs that is your chance. KG has had multiple chances. Dirk has even taken KG out in the playoffs as well. Duncan is by far the best PF. But KG hasnt proven anything in the NBA but that he can put up stats. Big woop. 1. Duncan 2. Dirk 3. Dirk 4. KG</div>Kind of contradicting what you said earlier, and in case you don't remember, here's a refresher for ya. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting samoan-maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">Howard was listed as a center on this list. Dirk definitly should be number one and the rest MUST bow to his feet.</div>Hmmm....looks like you're slightly contradicting yourself. Mind making up your mind for us?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">what about Dwight Howard?</div> He's listed as a center. This list is preety good. That is how I would rate the top 5 from last year's performence, maybe put Elton Brand as number two though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting samoan-maverick:</div><div class="quote_post">Someone said KG did better than Dirk in his one good chance in the playoffs? Well that's crap because Dirk has only lost in the first round once, and KG has been put out in the round multiple times. If your in the playoffs that is your chance. KG has had multiple chances. Dirk has even taken KG out in the playoffs as well. Duncan is by far the best PF. But KG hasnt proven anything in the NBA but that he can put up stats. Big woop. 1. Duncan 2. Dirk 3. Dirk 4. KG</div> i said dirk never lived up to what he was supposed. He was a dissapointment a few years back when the mavs were favrored to win series but lost. KG never lost a series he was favored to win, ever. Even our wcf year are team was crapped compared to a ton of playoff teams every year, and we werent favored due to injuries in teh lakers series.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Kind of contradicting what you said earlier, and in case you don't remember, here's a refresher for ya. Hmmm....looks like you're slightly contradicting yourself. Mind making up your mind for us?</div> I'm not contradicting myself i'm talking on a serious note. Dirk is mah boy. But i'm not stupid.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">i said dirk never lived up to what he was supposed. He was a dissapointment a few years back when the mavs were favrored to win series but lost. KG never lost a series he was favored to win, ever. Even our wcf year are team was crapped compared to a ton of playoff teams every year, and we werent favored due to injuries in teh lakers series.</div> Never lost a series you were Favored in? Every year in the freakin playoffs, analyst would always start their stupid points with "This is the year the T'wolves get out of the first round".
In those early years the wolves were a young team and didnt have the higher seed until they played the Lakers in 03. The first time that KG had any kind of a supporting cast (Spree and Cassell) the wolves went to the WCF. We only lost there because Sam was injured for almost the entire series, and we had to play Ervin Johnson and Michael Olowokandi against Shaq. Now I am more than willing to admit that I am biased on this issue but the way I look at KGs career is simple. He has been good enough to carry his team to the playoffs six times and the seventh time they almost made the finals. Dirk has never won it all either and has always been on the better TEAM.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">i said dirk never lived up to what he was supposed. He was a dissapointment a few years back when the mavs were favrored to win series but lost. KG never lost a series he was favored to win, ever. Even our wcf year are team was crapped compared to a ton of playoff teams every year, and we werent favored due to injuries in teh lakers series.</div>So, apparently, in his 11 years in the league, he's only been favored to win two series ever huh? I really doubt that.
Dirk deserved the number 1 ranking this year, hands down. The only thing people remember is his Finals performance, which is unfortunate. He had a monster playoffs up until that point and he had a career season as well. Last year, he was easily the best power forward in the league and i expect him to be on top for the next few years. I agree with Carter with putting Brand 2nd based on last year. People seem to be taking this as "oh well KG and Duncan's ratings were better in NBA 2k6 and they block 10 shots a game on my franchise". This is about the 05-06 season. Last year, no power forward did what Dirk did for his team. He turned into a true leader, put his team on his back (and took on Duncan head-to-head) to finally get past the Spurs, and got them to the Finals. Kg would beat him 1-on-1, and Duncan(when healthy) is more fundamentally sound, but they couldn't get it done last year. Get used to his name on top for a couple more years
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">So, apparently, in his 11 years in the league, he's only been favored to win two series ever huh? I really doubt that.</div> go check the seeds, we were only a top 4 seed (favored) once, and we made one step away from tht finals. If t hud or sammy had been healthy i think we would've made it to, but that doesnt really matter.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Umair15:</div><div class="quote_post">what about Dwight Howard?</div> He was rated the #2 center in the NBA behind Shaq. Ahead of Yao and Amare.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheFreshPrince:</div><div class="quote_post">go check the seeds, we were only a top 4 seed (favored) once</div>Top four doesn't make you favored to win a series. If that was the case, than the Nuggets would have been favored to win a couple series along the way. Just cause you have a higher seed doesn't mean you're going to win, nor does it mean you're going to be favored to win. People take a lot more than the record of the team and the seeding of the team when they make odds.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Top four doesn't make you favored to win a series. If that was the case, than the Nuggets would have been favored to win a couple series along the way. Just cause you have a higher seed doesn't mean you're going to win, nor does it mean you're going to be favored to win. People take a lot more than the record of the team and the seeding of the team when they make odds.</div> Name all the series in which the Wolves were favored to win that they lost.
List is very accurate. Dirk's playoff game was simply outstanding. Future ... it would be ... 1. Dirk 2. Dwight Howard 3. Chris Bosh That is, if KG and TD slow down. Which I think they are on the path to. But, who knows, they might come back stronger next season BTW - If we're talking power forward... power forward here. I'd take Howard #1 in couple of years. Dirk is good, but not POWER enough.
The TWolves have actually been the top seed twice in the first round. We were fourth in 2003, but the Lakers were streaking late and finished in fifth. We were seeded better, but the Lakers were still heavily favored. Before that season, we weren't ever even close to being favored in a first-round series. We lost to San Antonio, Houston, Seattle, etc. Do all the checking you want, but Minnesota was never favored in a playoff series until 2004 when they were the #1 seed. They made it to the Western Conference Finals and were once again the underdog despite their #1 seed. The Lakers were favored to win and did so. So the people saying the TWolves never lost a series they were favored in were correct. We have only been favored in two series, and we won both. It may be hard to believe, but it's true. As for the topic, KG is more well-rounded than Dirk and Duncan, but the gap is closing. I thought KG was far and above everyone other PF a few years ago, but the gap is definitely closing. My list would go like this: 1. KG 2. Duncan 3. Dirk 4. Brand
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Thrash13:</div><div class="quote_post">The TWolves have actually been the top seed twice in the first round. We were fourth in 2003, but the Lakers were streaking late and finished in fifth. We were seeded better, but the Lakers were still heavily favored. Before that season, we weren't ever even close to being favored in a first-round series. We lost to San Antonio, Houston, Seattle, etc. Do all the checking you want, but Minnesota was never favored in a playoff series until 2004 when they were the #1 seed. They made it to the Western Conference Finals and were once again the underdog despite their #1 seed. The Lakers were favored to win and did so. So the people saying the TWolves never lost a series they were favored in were correct. We have only been favored in two series, and we won both. It may be hard to believe, but it's true. As for the topic, KG is more well-rounded than Dirk and Duncan, but the gap is closing. I thought KG was far and above everyone other PF a few years ago, but the gap is definitely closing. My list would go like this: 1. KG 2. Duncan 3. Dirk 4. Brand</div> thank you, i agree with your list exactly as well. People keep trying to act like KG choked all those years, but his teams were never very good. If you look at our roster's for those early years, we were dreadful besides KG. Most players wouldnt have even started for half the league.
