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    DaLincolnJones Well-Known Member

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    bah..they just dumped the beam, but if you go to the LHC Beam dump tab, there are four images of the beam..these are not usual what so ever.
     
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    I know, I know ..screen shot of it did not happen. What I was finding exiting was an event that I have not caught live before in its entirety.

    Normal low power beam shows on the screen about the size of a half dollar. High power beam shows about the size of a dime. Always in the center of the screen. Just before they dumped the beams were fragmenting around the edge of the screen and growing in shape some what like a banana and beam two had become about the size of a monopoly dollar. again..not a normal event.
     
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    I'm surprised you support an organization whose only purpose is to reduce God's influence to that of a particle.
     
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    Interesting that you would ask, dont you find it curious that in a recent release one of the physicists stated that they really did not know what the were playing with using such high power. The known factors were being able to harvest dark matter, opening portals to other plains and the ability to create small black holes. You know, the stuff that gets the average conspiracy theorist mocked for life.

    Come on, big dog, we have science fiction come alive before our eyes. Why would you not want to see it happen first hand?
     
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    I have not seen this where they power up only one beam this high. As the third screen shows, beam is not behaving in a normal manor.
     
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    Here we go..beam is down 9:30 GMT. Scuttle butt confirmed. They already know the high power created an unstable beam, to have shut it down they must have surprised themselves.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    You need to know bosons.

    The fundamental forces result from the exchange of force-carrier particles, bosons. Particles of matter transfer discrete amounts of energy by exchanging bosons with each other. Each fundamental force has its own boson – the strong force is carried by the gluon, the electromagnetic force is carried by the photon, and the weak force has the W and Z bosons. Although not yet found, the graviton should be the corresponding force-carrying particle of gravity.
     
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    From my reading I have an understanding of this. Where my amazement arrives from is the break down of the particle as they accelerate. Yes, the gravity created by the machine does pull the particle, the collision is creating results never before seen. When these experts get freaked out and shut down a run, you and I both know they have crossed horizons never before imagined.
     
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    oops I did contradict myself a bit..as you have pointed out if I understand in lay mans terms is the the faster the beam, the less stable it is. Yes, yes..bet the degree of the distortion is beyond what they have ever seen. Both in single and dual beam operation. This crazy overdrive turn it up to eleven mind set is too much to ignore for me.
     
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    .... Last spoken words at CERN LHC.

    "We dipped the cookie in the milk and the sh-t blew up!"
     
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    want an oh my goodness moment..look at the EPS east graph...peg the meter is a past tense
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Thanks for the updates, I don't understand anything about the science or how to read the graphs. It's nice to have somebody who knows something about it sharing current information. Keep it up!
     
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    ignore my last post. Dont know how I overlooked the obvious. I started to equate power with speed of beam. Wrong. The speed is constant as is the magnetic field. The variable is the amount of power they put to the particles.

    The unusual variations of the beam that I called distortion is the event. This is what they wanted to achieve during collision. The break down of the H-B, as that is the glue. I dont think they expected to create this effect without collision and have only recently discovered the ability to do so with single beam and high power.

    When these guys state that they are going beyond the standard model, they are not just paying lip service. Now the question is, what have they discovered?
     
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    That you can make one hell of a mixed drink with a particle collider.
     
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    PDXFonz I’m listening

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    Great question. I will try to keep this as short as I can.

    The machine that is the particle collider is a 27 KM ring with two pathways that accelerate particles in the opposite direction. These path ways cross at four main points and at these points various measurements and tracking of collisions take place.

    The particles released are injected into the system fractions of a second apart where they are almost a single unit. They are accelerated to almost the speed of light. At full speed under normal low power runs, the light pattern is about the size of a silver dollar. Until recently the highest power runs would produce pattern about the size of a nickle. Now they have powered this thing up to the point where it appears as you see.

    To break this down a bit, the more power generates more mass. At a point the particle becomes unstable. The bond created by the H-B particle breaks down and at that point the pattern becomes multiple irregular shaped mess. This instability is occurring in single and dual beam runs without collision. They are attempting to be able to control this event as to be able to determine if they are heading toward another dimension, creating some other field..or what? This is where theoretical physics is proven or disproved.

    Does this help?
     

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