Chad Ford: CP3 not happening. Blazers and Raptors talking....

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  1. oldmangrouch

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    Re: Blazers discussing Rudy to Toronto?

    Players who could be available at 13 that are better FOR THE BLAZERS than Rudy: Udoh, Henry, George, Patterson, Babbitt, Aldrich, Hayward, and probably several others I am forgetting. Basicaly, any good player who wants to be here and will accept his role here.

    Some folks over-rate Rudy - and some are downright delusional.
     
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    I love Rudy, but Nate doesn't, and Nate probably matters slightly more. So based on the fact they need to move him, and how he under-performed last year, I think the only reason Pritchard is 'reluctant' to make this trade is because he's got other teams bidding.

    I don't understand why we'd be trying to move up in the draft since Paul Allen wants to win now, unless the pick would be involved in another trade.
     
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    The blunt truth is, the Blazers don't have that much in terms of trade bait for a "blockbuster" type deal. Reinforcing the bench through the draft may be the best option available.
     
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    Re: Blazers discussing Rudy to Toronto?

    I don't see what's so bad about this trade.

    edit - this is probably the deal Rice was talking about. I'd probably do it. Rudy obviously doesn't want to be here, so you're in a position where you have to trade him basically.
     
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    Re: Blazers discussing Rudy to Toronto?

    I've heard through sources that possible options at 13 are: James Anderson, Patrick Patterson, and Xavier Henry...Anderson and Patterson are the two guys I wanted in this draft...either one would be great for Rudy!
     
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    Re: Blazers discussing Rudy to Toronto?

    This isn't just Rudy for 13. It's Rudy + 22 for 13.
     
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    Re: Blazers discussing Rudy to Toronto?

    I like this deal much better than the NY deal.

    We can package the #13 and #34 with a player/contract like Joel and hopefully get a stud.
     
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    Re: Blazers discussing Rudy to Toronto?

    Oh, and we would have to take back some kind of salary from TOR to make it work as both teams are over the cap. Someone like Belinelli or Sonny Weems.

    Bleh.
     
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    I think if the Blazers hold firm that Toronto will not insist on our 22nd and the deal will get done.
     
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    So we're not shipping Rudy out for a second round pick and sending along enough money to pay his salary? Wow! win for KP.
     
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    I hear Walter Davis from the Nets is available.....
     
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    Re: Blazers discussing Rudy to Toronto?

    Rudy (who wants out badly) and the 22nd pick for a late lottery selection and you guys are poo-poohing it? WTF, that's a steal.
     
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    Re: Blazers discussing Rudy to Toronto?

    Maybe. But if Bosh leaves, that is a huge chunk out of their salary cap. They might even clear out some space on a sign and trade scenario.
     
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    We don't have trade bait to excute a blockbuster? Roy, Oden, Batum, Aldridge, expiring deals and several players with reasonable contracts and upside. I know we sometimes overvalue our players but come on......we have some pieces if we so choose to make a blockbuster.
     
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    Roy isn't getting traded, and LMA's new contract makes him very tough to trade. Oden's trade value is probably a lot less than many Portland fans believe. That leaves Batum as the only high quality young player on a good contract.

    As for the expiring contracts - when was the last time the Blazers pulled off a deal with one of those? Why would Joel or Miller's deals have more value than Raef's did?
     

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