Chairman Tom Price with 1,073-page Non-Stimulus Text

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  1. maxiep

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    You're assuming that they've been able to acquire the text of the bill. The complaint is that they haven't. Even the smartest person would have trouble digesting a bill they can't get a copy of to read. Next time I'll vote for Kreskin for my US Representative.
     
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    Really? And how so? Because I believe in something above and beyond tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans?

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    Nice. You built a sweet one of these.
     
  4. maxiep

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    Because an investment should have a positive return. Otherwise, it's just paying people off.
     
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    It's in the eye of the beholder, but there's an argument to be made that injecting money directly into industry creates jobs, which, in turn, grows the tax base. There's your return.

    Look ... I'm not a huge fan of having to use taxpayer dollars to stimulate the economy, either. But I also know that a prolonged recession has a way of building on itself. And the longer this draws out, the worse it's going to get.

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    Which is just fine. My party is in power now, they are responsible for whatever happens.

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    Well, if it turns out that the need for a stimulus bill is as much a lie as the need to invade Iraq, then I expect the Democrats will suffer the consequences, just as the Republicans did.

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    Yet we see photos in this thread of angry congressfolk holding giant piles of paper purported to be the bill. If it isn't the bill, then they are really grandstanding; if it is the bill, they could send it off to the copy room instead of waving it around.

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  9. maxiep

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    You should know more, because what you know now is not only insufficient, but incorrect.
     
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    Your supposition is that they've had plenty of time to read it. If they were only provided it today--and in .pdf format which makes it unsearchable--then reading it, understanding it and thinking of a response is too much to ask in that short of a period.
     
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    Yet, you're fine with the same tactics? I recall a lot of posts back on the old site complaining about "the rush to war" from you and others. Now, you seem to be fine with that same strategy. Interesting.
     
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    Well, first of all the stimulus bill doesn't involve killing a bunch of people.
    Second, I'm not sure I'm defending the rush to stimulus per se. I think it would be fine to wait another week or so.

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    As I said in a previous post, the text in the bill didn't arise out of thin air. All they need to read is the changes, assuming they read the prior versions. Which we both know most of them didn't. So to complain that they now don't have time to read it is just making a convenient excuse.

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    As a side note, .pdfs are searchable.

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    You're right, it was created in a committee hearing with only Democrats. The Democrats had time to read it. The non-Democrats haven't.
     
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    Nope, you're just defending the Democrats for doing the same thing you excoriated the previous administration for doing.

    Try putting your country before your party.
     
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    Ok. Seems like the stimulus bill is a good idea, so we should pass it, for the good of the country. Happy now?

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    Who cares about the non-democrats? They aren't voting for it anyway.

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    Based on what? Or are you just saying "In Nancy We Trust"?
     
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    Based on the idea that somebody needs to spend money if the economy is going to get going, and it is clear that consumers and businesses and investors aren't going to go first. That leaves only government.

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