Charles Oakley contacted by Portland to work with Oden?

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  1. RR7

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    So, was Pete Newell ever a great NBA center? Great players don't always make great teachers, and likewise, a player mediocre in one aspect of his game could still know HOW to do it. Or better yet how to coach it. I'm not saying Oakley would make a great coach, or even a good one, but discounting him as a coach because of his career seems pretty silly.

    Monty Williams wasn't a good player, but seems to get praise for being a good coach. Grugrich was always said to be a great assistant with our young players. Can't find stats on his playing career anywhere. Bayno a decent player?

    Again, I'm not saying because of these guys, it means Oakley will bea good coach, just saying to criticize the thought because it isn't Hakeem or Robinson or McHale seems silly. And I can't see any of those three coming through our doors to work with Greg.
     
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    Just a tip, when giving someone a tip to use "quote marks", you might want to use them yourself. Otherwise your example, and tip, fail.
     
  3. Wheels

    Wheels Is That A Challenge?!?!1! Staff Member Global Moderator

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    valid points. I remember on BFT the other day Canzano talking about how sometimes the great players dont make good coaches because a lot of what they did in the league came so much easier to them, than other people. So it would be harder for them to teach to other players.
     
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    100 percent agreed. If Hakeem worked with Greg, it doesn't mean Greg would suddenly develop Dream Shakes and be hitting fadeaway baseline jumpers for example.
    Clyde was also a great player, but a terrible coach. There's probably a lot of former players out there who know the game and can teach the game well, but weren't great hall of fame players.

    While I don't know about Oakley's coaching abilities, I don't agree with people who say if we bring in Hakeem or the Admiral or McHale or whomever, then suddenly those guys' abilities in the prime of their careers transfer over to Greg.
     
  5. Boob-No-More

    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Many great players struggle as HEAD coaches, but guys like Kareem and Patrick Ewing have shown they can teach what they know best.

    If travel is an issue for McHale, see if he's available for a week or two this summer. Either send Greg to Minnosota for his own personal Big Man Camp at Lake Wobegon, or see if McHale and his family would be interested in a two week, all expenses paid summer vacation to lovely Columbus, OH - the French Riviera of Central Ohio.

    BNM
     
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    I don't think anyone said that. I would much prefer McHale teach Greg footwork and post moves than to have Oakley teach him how to foul hard and intimidate the opposition. That doesn't mean that he will learn all the skills that McHale had, or be as good at them as KM was, but it should teach him a few things that will be of value for his entire career.
     
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    Oakley contacted re: Big man Coach

    Wasn't sure if this had been posted? (From InsideHoops)



    Meanwhile, Charles Oakley is under consideration by Donnie Walsh to help big men get down and dirty at the defensive end. Does that mean the Knicks president is unhappy with how easy and how often opponents scored last season? My second question is, how do you teach bringing intimidation and intensity to work every time you get on the court? Oakley also was contacted by Portland officials who suspect it might be good for the team's health if a trace of his brutish attitude rubbed off on Greg Oden. NY Post
     
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    Re: Oakley contacted re: Big man Coach

    Wasn't it Oakley who once said that over 60% of the league's players light up......inlcuding himself? While I'm not necessarily "prudish" on pot itself, I'd think Oakley's history (if I'm correct) in that regard might go against KP's philosophy on Portland's new "culture". (not to mention how it might eventually play out [with Canzano and the like] regarding Oden's mentorship.) :dunno:
     
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    Re: Oakley contacted re: Big man Coach

    ugh, if Greg isn't getting tougher by playing with Joel then I don't see why Oakley would help. Greg biggest problems are his conditioning and confidence and when he drops 20 lbs and starts playing quicker his confidence will come back.
     
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    bullet dodged.
     
  11. bodyman5000 and 1

    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    No way, Oakley does not GAF. Bad knees? He'd still beat your ass.

    Mind you I have not read a word about this story other than the headlines.
     
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    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Meyers and Vonleh could certainly use him now.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    Sounds like a good idea then, and a better idea now.
     
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    BlayZa Misbehaving responsibly

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    id be behind this for sure.

    our marshmellows could probably learn something/anything.
     
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