Charlotte Bobcats vs. Chicago Bulls

Discussion in 'GM Draft 1' started by DynastYWarrioR6, Sep 14, 2008.

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Winner?

Poll closed Sep 17, 2008.
  1. Charlotte Bobcats

    10 vote(s)
    47.6%
  2. Chicago Bulls

    11 vote(s)
    52.4%
  1. Kid Chocolate

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    Once again, ad-hominem. Try to keep up. Just try.

    If you can't talk like an adult, don't respond to me.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    Another straw man.

    His argument is that he fits well with the team as a unit. It's in the sentence you removed, altering / distorting his argument.
     
  3. Kid Chocolate

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    Saying someone fits in well with a team does not equate to "he is a team oriented player".
     
  4. Denny Crane

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    Oops! No ad homenim there.
     
  5. Denny Crane

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    You're distorting his argument to maintain the straw man.

    Why don't you refute that he's a team oriented player, as an assertion with supporting fact/evidence?
     
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  7. Kid Chocolate

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    Why should I have to? I'm not arguing for or against it, just stating that J-Ray used a straw man to try to refute it.
     
  8. Denny Crane

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    Again, you're distorting his argument, ignoring his actual argument, and setting up the "straw man" straw man argument as a distraction.

    That's not an ad-hominem. It is an accusation, tho.
     
  9. J_Ray

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    I was replying to everything in one general posts rather than posting numerous meanless posts that are off topic. You are the one that's here arguing like a child instead of just accepting what Denny has told you. It's obvious as day, yet you continue to quit arguing and posting youtube videos showing how stubborn you really are.

    Hmm....kinda funny how fitting in well with a team doesn't mean your a team oriented player. You obviously have to find a niche on a team if your team oriented.....IDK just saying :dunno:
     
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    Because he's such a good scorer. That makes sense to me.
     
  11. pegs

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    Um. Gilbert Arenas is definitely not a team player. See the Wizards this past season. When he was out, they played so much better as a team. They had a system where you need to play as a team, and they were much successful in that system without Arenas. When Arenas did come in, he disrupted team flow. He is not a team player.
     
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    No they are though, because he can score well.

    :confused:
     
  13. Denny Crane

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    My argument would be something like this (Arenas):

    He's clearly a team player. His teams have mostly been playoff teams, and he's been the primary ball handler and in that role he's set up his teammates well - so well that he's had ~2x 20+ PPG teammates while still being able to get his own points. When his teammates have been injured, he's carried an extra load.
     
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    There's the straw man. Perfect example.
     
  15. pegs

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    Hmmm? His team was a playoff team without him....
     
  16. Denny Crane

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    My argument is not that his team is only a playoff team if he plays.
     
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    Ha! That's so silly.

    Why do we post at this forum? We should just accept things people say, regardless of whether we agree with them or think they are wrong, no point in arguing! Isn't that what we are here for?
    Why do you post on this forum if you want to just accept what people tell you and not engage in dialogue?
     
  18. Denny Crane

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    No offense intended, but this kind of thing doesn't add anything useful to your fine argument.
     
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    See, that makes sense. You did so without needing to support that idea with his scoring ability, and it ended up being sound.
     
  20. Kid Chocolate

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    I'm literally laughing though, at the "just accept what he told you" line.
    That's great.


    "Gilbert Arenas is not a good scorer, don't be stubborn, accept what I'm saying!"
     

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