Notice Chauncey Billups new Portland Trail Blazers head coach

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Mr. Robot, Jun 25, 2021.

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are you happy that chauncey billups got the job

  1. yes

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  2. no

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    7.5%
  3. yes, but he was not my first choice

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  4. meh, im indifferent

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  1. BBert

    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I like the cut of your conspiracy my good man.

    :cheers:
     
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    Ok, well, if you’re getting offended on an online message board over that comment, I don’t know what to tell you.

    And with knowledge of the justice system, especially as it pertains to “black men”, any *decent* lawyer would tell Billups to cut bait and run and not to risk leaving his fate to a “jury of his peers” if presented the option of settling out of court.

    If you want to see why any *decent* lawyer would do this, you can look up the statistics for heavy handed sentences being given to black men, unfair trials, as well as wrongful convictions and probably much more.

    Using an analogy from another sport, “don’t leave it to the judges (jury in this case.)”

    Not sure why you would find that offensive — given it’s pretty common advice from attorneys.

    Especially if the “victim” (quotes because we do not know) is white.
     
  3. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Has it? I just went back and I haven’t really said anything about the hire.

    This isn’t being combative, but I’d love for you to show me what I said
     
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    What's to be happy about? I'm disappointed we didn't go after a proven coach, or have somebody in mind.

    But there also weren't many great options. I would have preferred Udoka, but Boston is probably a better job.

    Billups was a fine player with championship experience. So was Mo Cheeks.

    I voted indifferent.
     
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  5. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I'm not being combative either. Nevermind, I went back and read most of them. Seemed mostly questioning the baggage. I thought you were firmly in the "Billups is a terrible person" camp because some of the posts have some negative connotations but it's actually pretty consistent with just "I don't know".
     
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  6. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Two paws up from me!

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  7. Stevenson

    Stevenson Old School

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    I accuse you of rape.

    There, now you have that "baggage" too.

    Accusations are a dime a dozen. The POLICE didn't even charge him.
     
  8. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    Ya, Kidd is a known piece of shit. Billups just might be one
     
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  9. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    The details are actually pretty interesting. The police had physical evidence (semen) and chose not to press charges. I also see people mentioning that Billups admitted to having sex with her as an admission of guilt, but he only admitted to oral sex with her while in the car.

    Whatever the case, what happened that night at least with how it relates specifically to Billups probably operates under some gray area, as much as people want it to be black or white.
     
  10. BlayZa

    BlayZa Misbehaving responsibly

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    so am i right in this

    admitted sexual interaction
    she said rape and filed a report
    medical input was more on the victim's side
    they then settled.
    It sounded like there was enough to press charges and nothing happened except $?

    21yrs later

    Blazer fans in shambles?


    I'm a huge supporter of justice and personal choice and it seems like she sadly chose the money? if there was enough to charge them and get justice, id prefer they enjoy a cell instead. i guess we'll never know.
     
  11. Strenuus

    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You know there's a crazy concept where you can believe the victim and see the rehabilitation of the offender.

    But then I remember this is America where you're guilty and that's that.
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Every day is a happy day now thats stotts isn't coach.

    Every day would be a happier day if olshey were gone.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I really don't like how so many people are coming at this from a point of certainty. They're acting like they know, without a doubt, that Chauncey Billups raped this woman. We have no idea what happened that night. In fact, I don't think the accuser fully knows what happened that night. He was one of a bunch of guys who could have been there that night. Now, he might be guilty of knowing who did what, or maybe he's guilty of committing rape, but we don't know for sure and I really don't like how people are just assuming that he's guilty. They're acting like it's a certainty.
     
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    If she went to trial her name would become public. In a city like Boston that would be horrific for someone who was a victim of rape. Going public for a criminal trial is worth it. Going public for a civil trial she would be called many things and her motivations would be questioned. Win or lose, she would most likely have to move. To have a settlement that keeps her name out of the public and allows her to get counseling and/or other means of help could be attractive and more beneficial to her.
     
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    I'm a little confused...is anyone here who's on the "stop attacking Billups as a rapist" boat arguing with people in this thread/forum? Or are the people up in arms about "SJW run amok, American culture melting down, innocent til proven guilty" all talking about people they saw on reddit/BlazersEdge?
     
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    I have no problem with people who say in the past 20 some years Billups has had no further issues. I have no problem with second chance. That as the father of daughters his mindset has changed.

    And I think he'll be a good coach.

    What is absolutely nauseating is a parade of men calling rape a mistake. Like putting stockings in the washing machine or adding too much salt to the soup. Or saying just get over it. Ask any woman who has been sexually assaulted if she is over it. Ever. Or saying what a terrible SJW cancel culture blah blah that anyone would mention it. Or that it didn't happen. Was her fault. Etc etc etc.

    I am aware of Scottsboro, Emmitt Till et al and I know false rape charges have sickeningly been used to frame Black men. I also know rape is still the only crime where the victim has to prove she didn't want it to happen. Anyone ever hear of someone being carjacked and asked are you sure you didn't want him to have your car? Every woman and I suppose man who reports sexual assault will hear she is making it up, it's her fault and she must have wanted it, in fact all the above.

    So if you think he is the best person for the job, fine. But know the conversation is going to happen. And frankly most of you are making it worse.

    If he is hired, when he gets asked he cannot victim blame, self justify, or attack questioner.
     
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    "If you can't support the team when the coach is an accused rapist, you're just a bandwaggoner!"
     
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    I agree with first paragraph of @Strenuus if only he hadn't spoiled with snarky second paragraph.
    Disagree everyone is potential rapist. Ironically I have known men for whom I have too much respect to consider they could ever rape.
     
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    C'mon buddy. You can do better.
     
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    i think he'll be a good coach and i think the conversation will happen regardless and it'll probably just come back to the known parts, again.
     

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