Child Welfare called in on Father who gave Son a Gun

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  1. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    Yep, google the guy. I'm sure they have even better sources of information on anyone than just google. What should they do if they found out he's a licensed gun safety trainer, etc?

    And sure, the guy would have told them the truth and they'd have left him alone - on the phone.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    I have nothing to hide. That's scary.

    Invite government in to listen to your phone calls, read your mail, read your email?

    Nothing to hide, after all!
     
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    The proper solution is to google the guy? And how exactly was the tip unfounded? It may be now, but at the time how was it unfounded? And as someone earlier stated, calling would be counterproductive as people will just lie. How would a call prove or disprove anything (in any case)?
     
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    So no upstanding person, or licensed anything has ever done anything wrong, right? Oh, he's a trainer, disregard.
    Again, call, he says nothing is wrong. If he was, say, beating his kids, do you think he would have said that over the phone when they called?
     
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    You're taking it to an entirely extreme level, there. Far beyond the scope of this non-story/example.

    But just know that the government already does listen to our calls and read our emails.
     
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    Unfounded. Like the Pizza place not delivering the 150 pizzas I ordered to be delivered to BlazingGiant's house.

    "Hi, we're contacting you because we got a tip. Someone is concerned about your child's access to guns."

    "Well, I'm a certified instructor and safety inspector and my son is certified, too. The gun you're calling about is a .22 that looks pretty. It's not an assault rifle."

    "Thanks. Bye."

    Unfounded.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    That makes you a very weird character. I'm calling the Feds to pay you a visit.
     
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    So instead of just going to dude's house, we should try to google him and see what comes up?

    Because the information we find on google is indicative of what they might find in reality. How exactly do you document that you properly executed a sufficient google search to clear the dude. Because they have to do that after a complaint is made, and if they don't and something happens, they're opened up for lawsuits/investigations. Seems much easier to go to the house, take a few minutes to discuss the complaint face-to-face, and then everyone can walk away knowing they have sufficient evidence to rule the complaint unwarranted, and everyone can move on.
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    You can't act if you simply think someone is going to do something wrong sometime in the future.

    You have to have something really compelling. Owning a gun is not illegal. Nothing compelling here.

    Hey, there's beer in your house. Your kids have access to beer. Better not ever have a photo of a kid near your beer.
     
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    The information on google may well be indicative.

    "News story: the guy arrested for a crime using a gun."

    Go get him!

    "News story: the guy shot the biggest buck in the hunting contest."

    No grounds to do squat.
     
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    Yes, because he's going to tell CPS/police over the phone that he's a threat and/or his child is in danger.

    "Yes, officer. I understand. But no, I would never hurt my child. He/She is totally safe with my."

    - every parent that abuses their child.
     
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    If only we'd have googled Adam Lanza before he committed his crime - we'd have caught him with all the information on googl!

    Oh wait, no we wouldn't.
     
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    "I'm certified in arms training and safety. You can find the records in your files. The gun is a .22, a gift for my son. He's certified, too. You can find the records in your files. Now leave us alone."

    And they should leave them alone.
     
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    Because someone certified to handle guns has never used their training for bad intentions?

    The guy should find new friends.
     
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    So now you're suggesting they should google everyone all the time?
     
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    Owning a gun is not illegal.

    It's not illegal for the son to own one.

    Maybe they should just drop a bomb on the guy's house with a drone on the unfounded report!
     
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    So what this means is that any picture of a kid on Facebook doing anything with a small chance of danger will result in the Gestapo knocking on your door. So no one should put pictures of their kids on the internet.

    Will CPS publish its precise rules for what we can post on the internet, or will they continue to operate in secrecy? Will American propaganda continue to tell us how censored the internet is in other countries?
     
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    So if you knock on his door all of a sudden he's going to confess to beating the shit out of his kids?
     
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    Yeah. It's cool. You're on an entirely different level. Nobody is saying to use drones. Nobody is saying google everyone (well, it kinda seemed like you were saying that's the approach we should be taking whenever a complaint is made, though).

    CPS/Police acted on a tip from a friend. They did their job. They didn't make a big deal of it, but the dad did. They didn't blow down the door, they just investigated a complaint from the dude's own friend. How it's their fault for checking on the welfare of a child is beyond me.

    And as several of us have suggested, you don't have a copy of the complaint lodged. So it could have been blown up to be much bigger than it was. Even then, the cops did their homework, they didn't make some crazy scene.

    I'm still trying to figure out if you're really on this level, or just trying to get post counts up to make a few extra pennies. Business been lacking, Denny?
     
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    bomb his house? Way to hop into ridiculousness! They stopped in, nothing doing, left him alone. They didn't arrest him. Didn't confiscate his guns. Didn't trash his house. Didn't search illegally. wtf.
     

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