Child Welfare called in on Father who gave Son a Gun

No, but if you can see the kids with your own eyes, talk to them for a few minutes, you can feel a lot better about their safety.

 

They won't answer this question, I've asked the same thing in a different way a couple times now.

 

Yes, because that's clearly what happened in this case.

 

Yes, a toy gun v. a gun that even the dad looks very similar to a semi-automatic. Apples to apples, eh?

I'm sure CPS/police took this much more serious when factoring in that the person that reported him said they were "friends". It's not like, "Hey, I'm some random dude worried about this child's well-being." It was a supposed friends. That seems a bit more credible there.

And again, we don't have the audio or written excerpts of the complaints filed, so there could have been more that the police were acting on, whether the information was credible or exaggerated. But alas, despite this being mentioned several times, you haven't seemed to grasp that concept.

 

People often forget that CPS are trained individuals, with BA's and often masters in their field. Talking to someone face to face, including the child, can yeild a lot of information to the trained eye. Often the child is talked to seperately also to see if the stories jive.

 

how would you have them determine what to investigate?

 

Duh - have you not read the thread? Start with google.

 

Exactly. But don't tell this to VG or DC.

And it sounds like that's what happened. They showed up, saw the kid, talked to him for a second, and it become obvious everything was okay.

 

Denny, by the way, since you're so good at google.... Google some articles related to child welfare (or services) and "ignored" or "warning signs" or something a long those lines. They catch a lot of heat for not investigating complaints from friends, family members, etc. From the couple of articles I've read from papers in various US metro areas, it's clear that a significant portion of children that have died from neglect, abuse, etc.... many had complaints against them that were never thoroughly investigated, if at all.

 

This is a bit different than the current story. I find it hard to believe the dad was watching him and didn't notice something was amiss.

That's not to say he allowed it to happen - I'd argue there's no way he was really watching his child. Or he was setup by his (ex??) wife (the way the story reads, it sounds like she might be an ex but the link to more of the article doesn't work).

 

It seems like in your link, the mom probably filed a complaint against the dad for the abuse. Don't see the correlation between that link(love your links, by the way!!), and this current story.

 

Yes, because that works in every case.

 

I understand and agree. But clearly, this dad is not the brightest bulb in the box. Letting his child run around shirtless with no sun block or t-shirt in 95-degree weather? Clearly, the fact this man was able to have kids was a crime against humanity.

 

When I was 8, the treehouse that we boys built out of materials that housebuilders left lying around was 50 feet up there. By the time I was 9 we had 3 of them at different heights. My grandmother visited and was surprised how high I was.

I bicycled far away, explored the woods, got lost sometimes for an hour and figured out the way back, got my legs stuck in mud and couldn't get out, etc.

When my son was that age, I would have him play at a playground a block from where I lived after school for an hour. This is a quiet residential neighborhood, not a big urban environment. One day a very young CPS woman with a foreign accent because no one wants the repulsive job, phoned me, saying there had been a citizen report. I was so surprised that I agreed to never have him play there alone again.

1) What difference does it make if he's alone or if there's another kid there?

2) Since kids aren't supposed to play at playgrounds nowadays, why doesn't the City surround any new playground it builds with a barbed wire fence and a sign: "Playground. No playing. Or we will steal your kid and you'll spend $10,000 for a lawyer and after interrogating your coworkers and relatives, if we can find anything about you like drug use, you'll never see them again."