Politics China, possibly the biggest cover-up in World History

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  1. SlyPokerCat

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    Nice to meet you sir. I don't think we have met.

    If you are talking about that dumb dog, he is probably humping the leg of your couch and eating my poop somewhere.

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    The report I shared shows a spike only in the meat packing plant. No reports in spikes outside that plant. So with that report, mitigation quite possibly wouldn’t be a factor, since it’s an essential business.
     
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    That's not a rational position, unless you want to argue the plant workers caught it from the pigs.
    Otherwise, the first person that works in the plant that got infected must have caught it from someone who doesn't work in the plant.

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    Swine flu
     
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    Possibly right. So you think mitigation would of stopped the spread?
     
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    that meat plant was/is a hot spot. The impact on the community will be seen later this month. There will definitely be residual infections in 10-14 days

    South Dakota is already showing that their curve is pretty high for a sparsely populated state; compare Oregon and South Dakota:

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    I'd guess if we look at that graph in a week, SD will be headed in a worse direction than it is now
     
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    I’ll concede if the pace is higher in a week or two.
     
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    remind me...I saved the image of the graph today. I'll be curious what it looks like by next Thursday of Friday. A cluster of 650 cases in a City of 181,000 seems to be pretty big
     
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    Done
     
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    It might have prevented it from entering the plant. It presumably would not have stopped it from spreading once it was in the plant.

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    There shouldn't be any.
     
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    Yep, there shouldn’t. Just like there shouldn’t be communist flags at pro/democrat protests or rally. Agree?
     
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    Take away the right to wave a flag, then you have to take away many freedoms. Just sayin. The offset to our freedoms are having to deal with porn and racism, etc.

    So which freedoms do you want to deny the American public in order to make sure there aren't any flags waved that some don't approve of?
     
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    Honestly, I've never seen any at a Democratic rally, ever.
     
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    Then I guess it doesn’t apply to you.
     
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    https://www.okayafrica.com/africans...whdVagJE5mbR3wNAMpJYxNWgYblpDyxyeBDBcTHowvDcw

    Africans In China are Being Evicted from Their Homes and Blamed for Spreading Coronavirus
    Footage of Africans sleeping on the streets of Guangzhou has caused outrage online. Now, African governments are putting pressure on Beijing to take action.

    Fears of a second wave of coronavirus in China have led to widespread racism and xenophobia against African populations. Reports of Africans being forced out of their homes in Guangzhou, China have caused fear amongst its African community and backlash across social media.

    As China faces more cases of the novel coronavirus, much of the blame has been placed on foreign nationals who are being accused of importing new cases into the country. Guangzhou, nicknamed "Little Africa," has the highest population of African immigrants—largely from Nigeria, Kenya, Ghana and Uganda—who have long been a target of racial discrimination. Tensions further escalated over the weekend when Chinese state media reported that five Nigerians had contracted the virus and passed it onto a local restaurant owner.






    According to CNN, various businesses began denying services to African foreign nationals and several were evicted from their homes in the Southern Chinese city—despite many having no confirmed contact with the virus or recent travel history. Images and video footage, showing Africans being forcefully displaced and sleeping outside with their luggage, has warranted angry responses on social media, with people denouncing the widespread mistreatment of Black people in the country.


    In response several African diplomatic leaders from Nigeria, Ghana, Kenya and Uganda, as well as the African Union have called on Beijing to take urgent action against the abuse of African residents. Media reports have slammed the Chinese government and according to a report from CNN, China—which has a major economic presence across Africa—faces a growing "diplomatic crisis" due to the outrage caused by the disregard shown for Africans.

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    Thought this would be debunked, but even the fact checkers is saying this is true.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...pK-XsVqUvM50zlHVhALjrRe1HolXaP_Ind5_6DL7Tj3PQ
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/...noeWcgEqtiuwd_ASZHKL7mnujJ0VgmaRGmA78nInFEP6I

    China’s Aggressive Diplomacy Weakens Xi Jinping’s Global Standing
    In the past week officials in France, Britain and nearly two dozen African nations have rebuked actions or statements by the Chinese government.

    China’s top leader, Xi Jinping, has used the coronavirus pandemicto shore up his political power at home, but the tools the Communist Party has exploited to do this are threatening China’s international standing.

    China has demanded fealty and praise of Mr. Xi’s handling of the pandemic as a price for the country’s provision of medical supplies and expertise. It has accused Western countries of failing to protect their people, unleashing vitriol usually preserved for domestic audiences on the world, provoking anger.

    In the past weekofficials in France, Britain and nearly two dozen African nations have rebuked actions or statements by the Chinese government. Mr. Xi’s government has now been accused of hypocrisy and hubris, for obfuscating the origins of the coronavirus and for portraying Western governments as ineffectual compared to China’s own response.

    The state’s efforts to bolster Mr. Xi’s standing at home are undercutting any good will that China had generated by sending experts and medical supplies to countries on the newest front lines of the pandemic.

    “There’s no doubt: We can’t have business as usual after this crisis, and we’ll have to ask the hard questions about how it came about and about how it could’ve been stopped earlier,” Britain’s foreign minister, Dominic Raab, said on Thursday.


    The lasting effect on Mr. Xi’s global ambitions could be profound. China’s relationship with the United States has already cratered, despite a rhetorical truce reached between Mr. Xi and President Trump. Now there is evidence the pandemic is forcing other countries to rethink relations.

    Japan has pledged $2 billion to help companies move their production out of China because of concerns about the country’s reliability. President Emmanuel Macron of France questioned whether China’s response was a model for democracies to follow, disputing the narrative Mr. Xi’s acolytes have tried to spin. “Let’s not be so naïve as to say it’s been much better at handling this,” he said in an interview with The Financial Times.

    China’s state media portray Mr. Xi as a steady, forceful and yet benevolent leader who has guided the country through a “people’s war” against the pandemic. The increasingly combative, nationalist tone of his diplomats, though, has stirred hostility.
     
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    Jan. 24, Twitter:

    “China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!”

    Jan. 30, Fox News interview:

    "China is not in great shape right now, unfortunately. But they're working very hard. We'll see what happens. But we're working very closely with China and other countries."

    Feb. 7, Remarks at North Carolina Opportunity Now Summit in Charlotte, N.C.:

    "I just spoke to President Xi last night, and, you know, we're working on the — the problem, the virus. It's a — it's a very tough situation. But I think he's going to handle it. I think he's handled it really well. We're helping wherever we can."

    Feb. 7, Twitter:

    “Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days … Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!

    Feb. 7, Remarks before Marine One departure:

    "Late last night, I had a very good talk with President Xi, and we talked about — mostly about the coronavirus. They're working really hard, and I think they are doing a very professional job. They're in touch with World — the World — World Organization. CDC also. We're working together. But World Health is working with them. CDC is working with them. I had a great conversation last night with President Xi. It's a tough situation. I think they're doing a very good job.”

    Feb. 10, Fox Business interview:

    "I think China is very, you know, professionally run in the sense that they have everything under control," Trump said. "I really believe they are going to have it under control fairly soon. You know in April, supposedly, it dies with the hotter weather. And that's a beautiful date to look forward to. But China I can tell you is working very hard."

    Feb. 10, campaign rally in Manchester, N.H.:

    “I spoke with President Xi, and they’re working very, very hard. And I think it’s all going to work out fine.”

    Feb. 13, Fox News interview:

    “I think they've handled it professionally and I think they're extremely capable and I think President Xi is extremely capable and I hope that it's going to be resolved."

    Feb. 18, remarks before Air Force One departure:

    “I think President Xi is working very hard. As you know, I spoke with him recently. He’s working really hard. It’s a tough problem. I think he’s going to do — look, I’ve seen them build hospitals in a short period of time. I really believe he wants to get that done, and he wants to get it done fast. Yes, I think he’s doing it very professionally.”

    Feb. 23, remarks before Marine One departure:

    "I think President Xi is working very, very hard. I spoke to him. He's working very hard. I think he's doing a very good job. It's a big problem. But President Xi loves his country. He's working very hard to solve the problem, and he will solve the problem. OK?"

    Feb. 26, remarks at a business roundtable in New Delhi, India:

    “China is working very, very hard. I have spoken to President Xi, and they’re working very hard. And if you know anything about him, I think he’ll be in pretty good shape. They’re — they’ve had a rough patch, and I think right now they have it — it looks like they’re getting it under control more and more. They’re getting it more and more under control.”

    Feb. 27, Coronavirus Task Force press conference:

    “I spoke with President Xi. We had a great talk. He’s working very hard, I have to say. He’s working very, very hard. And if you can count on the reports coming out of China, that spread has gone down quite a bit. The infection seems to have gone down over the last two days. As opposed to getting larger, it’s actually gotten smaller.”

    Feb. 29, Coronavirus Task Force press conference:

    “China seems to be making tremendous progress. Their numbers are way down. … I think our relationship with China is very good. We just did a big trade deal. We’re starting on another trade deal with China — a very big one. And we’ve been working very closely. They’ve been talking to our people, we’ve been talking to their people, having to do with the virus.”
     
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    Nothing in his statements aren't true to what they were told. That will only validate that China was covering things up. You think Xi would be telling the Administration the truth if they weren't?
     
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