If you're aiming that post at me, then I have to reply with a "no sh*t." I didn't imply that it wasn't obvious that the guys are using steroids. There are obviously quite a few... those two, Test, Snitsky, etc., etc., etc. There is a difference between those guys who are about as pumped as you can get and a guy like Benoit or Eddie Guerrero. When you look at guys like them, you say, "Well gee, I mean, they've used some before, but they could be doing it somewhat safely blah blah," but they obviously aren't. I would venture to say that there are guys in the WWE that don't use steroids, but this opens up possibilities. You might expect a Batista or whatever other roid shmuck to kill their whole family, but when a guy like Benoit does it, you have to wonder how deep steroids are in that business, if steroids are safe at all, if this is going to spark any change. That is my point.Also, there are some people that think Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi don't take steroids. I wouldn't be surprised if some fans right now are questioning the validity of Benoit being on roids, even though it's pretty obvious to me.
actually Justice it has not been posted before so shut the hell up you probably didnt even read the quote I said
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Truth @ Jun 26 2007, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>actually Justice it has not been posted before so shut the hell up you probably didnt even read the quote I said</div>Yes it has.durr
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 26 2007, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you're aiming that post at me, then I have to reply with a "no sh*t." I didn't imply that it wasn't obvious that the guys are using steroids. There are obviously quite a few... those two, Test, Snitsky, etc., etc., etc. There is a difference between those guys who are about as pumped as you can get and a guy like Benoit or Eddie Guerrero. When you look at guys like them, you say, "Well gee, I mean, they've used some before, but they could be doing it somewhat safely blah blah," but they obviously aren't. I would venture to say that there are guys in the WWE that don't use steroids, but this opens up possibilities. You might expect a Batista or whatever other roid shmuck to kill their whole family, but when a guy like Benoit does it, you have to wonder how deep steroids are in that business, if steroids are safe at all, if this is going to spark any change. That is my point.Also, there are some people that think Barry Bonds and Jason Giambi don't take steroids. I wouldn't be surprised if some fans right now are questioning the validity of Benoit being on roids, even though it's pretty obvious to me.</div>I wasn't aiming that post at you, I was just commenting on what a joke steroid testing is in the WWE. It amazes me how blind some people are to steroid use. It's also kind of surprising how people don't think Benoit could have used steroids...The guy is huge. I'm not saying its totally obvious, but there is some indication of steroid abuse. As for the steroids found in his house, CNN reported that they were prescribed by a doctor...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 26 2007, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yes it has.durr</div>Yeah because im going to look through at 21 page thread about gay fake wrestling coool?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SBoyd415 @ Jun 26 2007, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wasn't aiming that post at you, I was just commenting on what a joke steroid testing is in the WWE. It amazes me how blind some people are to steroid use. It's also kind of surprising how people don't think Benoit could have used steroids...The guy is huge. I'm not saying its totally obvious, but there is some indication of steroid abuse. As for the steroids found in his house, CNN reported that they were prescribed by a doctor...</div>Okay, in that case, I agree. I wasn't sure if you were getting at something else, figured I'd just respond and elaborate anyway.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Truth @ Jun 26 2007, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah because im going to look through at 21 page thread about gay fake wrestling coool?</div>There is a search function on the board. You don't have to be a whiner. I merely said it had been posted already and I don't think it's a valid source since EVERYTHING else is saying different.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Justice @ Jun 26 2007, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I merely said it had been posted already and I don't think it's a valid source since EVERYTHING else is saying different.</div>Yeah, TMZ is definitely not a valid source...It shouldn't matter to The Truth anyway because it's basically been proven wrong through the press conference today and numerous articles online.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SBoyd415 @ Jun 26 2007, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, TMZ is definitely not a valid source...</div>Not only that, but it's some guy's second cousin... riiiiiight.
Some of you don't get it. He was just a WWF wrestler and his job was to entertain. He was ruthless in the ring but how can you say there isn't a chance he didn't do steroids and this murder suicide/homocide isn't directly related to steroids?Wrestling is fake and like Justice said this is just proof TV rots people's brains. Sure Benoit seems like a great guy in the ring but HE KILLED HIS 7 YEAR OLD SON, HIS WIFE AND HIMSELF.He clearly was F*cked up and you can make all the excuses you want but in the end this guy's an awful human being and is just as bad as any child molester or murderer. He just 'wrestles" to enertain. This guy isn't a martyr or a hero. He's a cold blooded murderer who was sick in the head in my opinion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jun 26 2007, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He's a cold blooded murderer who was sick in the head in my opinion.</div> I'm with you brother. All these sigs, 'RIP Beniot'...I see them on forums and I want to f*cking puke.
All this talk that his wife killed the daughter....come on...first off, it's kind of ridiculous, second, the only proof was in a suicide note...how do you we know if he is telling the truth? Also, I doubt some women is going to smother her own kid, then the husband comes home...sees the kid and kills the wife...then just kills himself, and writes a f*cking note. Obviously he was the deranged one. We see it all the time with depressed/F*cked up men who kill the whole family for no apparent reason.
RIP to his wife and his kid. Dont be sorry for this guy. He had problems but fame is making him the big news. Its his family who got screwed over.
In my opinion, you can see it two ways:1) He is a sick, twisted human who strangled his wife and smothered his son, and then killed himself2) He was a man that battled with possible depression and steroid abuse, and the killings were attributed to the abuse, not the man himself...
I dont think you can talk sh*t until theres proof of what happened. But somebody killed somebody and this is a very interesting story.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (SBoyd415 @ Jun 26 2007, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In my opinion, you can see it two ways:1) He is a sick, twisted human who strangled his wife and smothered his son, and then killed himself2) He was a man that battled with possible depression and steroid abuse, and the killings were attributed to the abuse, not the man himself...</div> I agree. Jeffrey Dahmer is someone who gets screwed over in the media as well, it's not his fault, he had a mental disorder and an alcohol problem as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (playaofthegame @ Jun 26 2007, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wrestling is fake and like Justice said this is just proof TV rots people's brains. Sure Benoit seems like a great guy in the ring but HE KILLED HIS 7 YEAR OLD SON, HIS WIFE AND HIMSELF.</div>Well everyone seemed to love the guy, not just fans, but his co-workers and such. You never heard anything bad from him. he was hard worker and never complained.As horrible as this was, I'd wait to see if there are any links to steroid use/clinical depression/concussions/anything else that could have pushed him over the edge that would hopefully signal that he wasn't in normal state of mind when he did this. It certainly wouldn't excuse what he did, but it would make more sense of it. It could also go a long way in stricter banning of steroids and whatnot.
This guy wrestled for almost two decades all over the world, he's going to have a fanbase and he's had no prior incidents that led anyone to believe he would do this. So it's not out of the ordinary for people to be shocked and have RIP sigs. I'm pretty sure no one is condoning his actions and a lot of his fans have lost respect for him as a person.
You know whats weird? I was having a discussion at my work last weekend about wrestlers dying and I told my coworker that we're overdo for another one of them to die. My prediction for next wrestler to die is X-pac or Dean Malenko(they have to kill off the last of the 90s wcw)
