Chris Paul trade ideas! (post them here please)

Paul would not want to play on our team then. There is a reason he mentioned the names of Roy (who I am sure he is buddies with via the all-star game a few years back) and Aldridge (not exactly an all star, but a proven player).

 

No. You don't trade (very good) big for (great) small. Besides, we've suffered so much with Greg, I want the good stuff if it happens.

Of course, if I knew for sure his legs would drop off in the next three years, THEN I'd do it.

 

The problem is we have ZERO defence if you give up Oden and Batum. I don't want to live in that world either. I would give up LMA and Batum and it would hurt or Oden himself plus non-Batum filler, but I can't destroy our defense. Yes, I know we have Camby but he's old. Oden and Batum is too devastating to that end of the court.

 

Oden has not proven to be very good. He can be and was nice when he played last season. Nothing suggests he is very good, at this point.

 

I just don't think it would efficiently maximize both Roy and Paul. I mean, I love the idea of Roy and Paul (best backcourt in NBA history)...but IF it came down to Roy for Paul or Oden/Batum for Paul (forgetting filler), I'd rather trade Roy. Both Roy and Paul are best with the ball in their hand. With Paul, Roy would have to play off the ball most of the time. I'm sure he can and I'm sure he'd still be good...but AS good? No, I don't think so.

Whereas, Paul would maximize Oden's and Batum's value. Oden and Batum would allow Paul to maximize his own value.

I love Roy, but Paul/Batum/Oden has better synergy than Paul/Roy. IMO.

 

Chris Paul holds no leverage in these talks. Not sure why you keep on rehashing that article and quote.

I don't think the whole "don't trade a big for a small" adage holds much credence these days. It's always the best players that win the title.

I think finding a defensive center in the mold of Kendrick Perkins is much easier than finding a once-in-a-decade type PG like Paul. Hell, Okafor fits the bill.

 

Does CP3 have a player trade restriction ala Kobe's? I don't think he does. He can't nix it and playing for awhile with Roy and Oden would quickly soothe his pain. Also if we trade LMA I'd rather not part with Batum as well. I mean I would do it for CP3, but I'd look into every option that doesn't include Oden/Roy/Batum before pulling the trigger on that deal. I'm aware of what CP3 said, but I don't think it's up to him ultimately.

 

That's bullshit. Jason Kidd was better (did you see the Nets teams he dragged to the Finals? TWICE?), Gary Payton was better (defense is always underrated) and Steve Nash has had a bigger impact. And Penny Hardaway was a PG when he was All-NBA pre-injuries. Paul is good, no question. He may even be Isiah Thomas good. MAY. But then again, there are those who already think Deron Williams is better and Rajon Rondo is coming up fast.

 

I just don't know man. Oden's injury last season was a fluke.... but it's still concerning. His knee cap collapsed without contact... that doesn't worry you? We've already passed on Durant for Oden, I don't think I'll make the same mistake when offered the best point guard in the NBA for Oden.

 

He's proven to be great. 23 PER with excellent defense in only his second season...that's phenomenal.

What he hasn't proven is that he can stay healthy. Durability is in doubt, talent isn't.

 

I sort of agree but for CP3 I would give up Batum and Oden. I think we still would be ok at center with Camby/Okafur and with CP3, Roy and LMA we are set. You use a MLE on a SF like Mike Miller and we are contenders. I do worry about Oden turning into this beast center but CP3 is the best PG in the league and maybe best since Magic.

 

You're wrong:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/odengr01.html

23.1 PER best on the TEAM last year until he went down. Defensive rating of 100!!

He was arguably the best defensive player in the LEAGUE before he went down. He was also arguably the best True Shooting % and Rebounds were right up there.

Fouls and health those are his limits.

There were days where he lead in two to three of the following NBA leader categories:

FG%, Rebounding, Blocked Shots and Drtg.

 

Huh? Is "at this point" while no games are being played? So yes, no NBA player is very good at playing NBA basketball RIGHT NOW. Also, if he's actually still injured and can't play, then that might be true. Is that what you mean?

 

Offer Oden and filler, fuck adding Batum that's too much.

I'd seriously rather trade Roy filler (not LMA, Batum, Oden) then Oden + Batum. Defense takes too big a hit over the next 3 seaons.

Okafor helps and it's ALMOST worth it, but I just can't abide trading our two best defenders arguably in the top 3 defenders at their positions for CP3.

I agree the Oden for Durant thing is FRESH in all our memories but explore other options first. Throw out Oden as an ABSOLUTE last resort.

I would trade him plus filler for CP3, but I wouldn't include another core member like Batum.

My core currently in order of importance to the teamis Roy/Oden/Batum/LMA.

The only two guys I could stomach both trading for Paul are LMA + Batum.

Oden I would trade but only with filler included, same goes for Roy.

 

Way to be. Perhaps you should look back to last season and not to "now," obviously.

Oden is great on defense, I would agree with those who say that. His offense is still a work in progress. It just amazes me that people will not trade for proven talent? Of course I try and trade Aldridge first, but it ain't happening. Oden and Batum have potential, but I will take a top 5 player over potential. Jeez

 

I don't agree that any of those players were actually even close to Paul. Kidd was a great point guard. I think Payton was even better than Kidd and a top-five point guard of all-time. Nash was very good but tremendously overrated...you say defense is underrated when talking about Payton and then venerate Nash, who's defense was abysmal. Defense is underrated and while Nash was flashy, he was neither transcendent offensively nor even slightly valuable on defense.

Paul, until last year when he struggled with injuries, was putting up historically good production. He was right behind LeBron James in PER. Paul's no defensive whiz like Payton or Kidd, but he's solid. Deron Williams has almost never been anywhere close to Paul. He's constantly compared to Paul because they were drafted together and people love to act as though that makes players rivals. Carmelo Anthony was compared to James for several years, despite clearly being worse, until it just became too silly to continue. I think Deron Williams is around Roy's caliber and Paul is around Wade's value. There's a clear and significant difference.

The only point guards in history I'd prefer over Paul are Oscar Robertson and Magic Johnson.

 

You maybe right, but trading Aldridge is not an option. Hornets do not want the contract or the horrible fit next to West. So it is either Oden and Batum or nothing. At this point, I go with a top 5 PG...

 

Those who say Deron and Rondo are close to Paul are fooling themselves. We're talking about a guy with a career 26 PER vs. Deron's 21, and Rondo's 17. You don't ever see a guy cross 25.