no..Obama is not on my list of horrible mercenaries and dictators......what a 3rd grade post from you
I'm glad you can distinguish who's posting what....and are an expert on 3rd grade cutting and pasting...fact is you do wish for divisive political walls and contention....we'll see how your orange hero manages the world and it's problems and our military
Let me explain......you wish opposing opinions argued when you spin anti Obama bullshit...anyone who even says you can only spin it one way can probably only spin it one way....some of us can look at things as a whole, not an angle
What I cut and paste is solid support for the positions I stake out and defend. The anti-Bush Iraq Body Count data is damning evidence and supports what I've been writing all along. I'm not the one who lumped Obama in with Bin Laden and the rest. I have no idea what you were trying to prove there. That bad or incompetent rulers do bad things? I'm not at all anti Obama. I applaud many of the things he did, just not these. Guess what? The emperor wears new clothes.
you've got Obama blinders...seem to ignore all the folks involved in these conflicts.....so you lump everyone and thing into a blame Obama singular stream...I've yet to see you assign any blame to casualties to Assad or any of these horrible leaders on the world stage...Obama has been very even handed dealing with both regions.....guess what...that's not going to be the case really soon.
Of course Assad is to blame. He gassed his own people. The red line in the sand Obama drew, remember? My bad, I'm not supposed to say that Obama fucked up, right? I applaud Obama for taking so many vacations . Imagine if he put that time to "work!" I applaud him for the end of don't ask, don't tell. For taking firm action on various civil rights issues, particularly police shootings. And for support of gay marriage. How's that for putting and end to the "anti obama stream?"
Look. Nixon was declared a war criminal for bombing Cambodia and Laos. Why did he? Because the bad guys would go across the border there to hide, come back into Vietnam to do guerrilla operations and then run away to hide again. A lot like the Taliban in Pakistan, eh? So Obama gets to bomb OUR ALLY, expanding his war into neighboring states, for the same reason and is not a war criminal? Either he is or Nixon wasn't. And I'm no fan of Nixon.
Nixon was a paranoid asshole but never convicted of war crimes......exaggerate much? With your logic, Bin Laden would still be living in Pakistan next to their military complex....again...Obama was praised for that operation...not tried for war crimes in the Hague
He didn't have to be convicted of war crimes. Many of those who commit them are not convicted. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/10/richard-nixon-100-criminal-traitor http://warisacrime.org/node/41878 If you bother to read my links, here's a great one: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/if-bush-is-a-war-criminal_b_5416535.html
The whole world knows Pakistan harbored Taliban fighters....they also know terror cells are global...even Bush said this was a global war and we'd hunt them down wherever they hid...and we did. Talking about our global involvement you might ask the question.....why so many sovereign nations allow our military bases and nukes to exist in their backyard.....I don't think it's because we're a bunch of war criminals
The enemy we are engaged in is not a sovereign state....it's a cult of barbarism...Truman didn't need to drop the bomb on Japan...Russia was sending troops to surround them and it would have been over in a couple of weeks.....The world wanted Japan to suffer...no war crimes for Truman or the Emperor of Japan. If you fight a dishonorable war with an enemy that doesn't play by the rules....(fighting in demilitarized zones, etc) then the gloves come off....I read a lot of your links Denny....I like to read...some of them are not worth it....this article was well written but I disagree that Obama should be lumped in with Truman and Nixon or LBJ....the enemy that flew planes into New York City and the Pentagon is unique and not confined to borders.
The whole world knows the Vietcong guerrilla fighters sought refuge in Cambodia and Laos. We had military bases and nukes all over during the Nixon years, too. He was a lot less likely (detente) than his predecessors (bay of pigs, cuban missile crisis, vietnam) to use nukes. I'm not sure what your point is. Here's your Nobel Peace Prize winner.
The vietcong weren't a sovereign state either. Again, I'm not sure where you are headed with this reasoning. If Nixon was a war criminal, then so must be Obama. The crimes are almost identical, just the scale of the bombing (we didn't have smart weapons then) and the geographical region (and thus actual enemy) are a tad different. If you fight by the enemy's rules, then beheading, burning captives to death, and torture are fine? The gloves come off. That's how it reads.
It's really tough to do honorable battle against an enemy that hides behind civilians as a defensive tactic....that's what the Taliban do...and ISIS.....they made hospitals and schools into military operation bases....but...that's our fault?
You know better what I mean. You want a link to the story? It's about a bunch of sycophants who refused to admit the emperor's malfeasance.
There wouldn't be an ISIS. You know that. Now I can trivially describe victory in Iraq. We had it. For it to endure, we needed to maintain some level of troop presence. Even if those troops were only stationed on their bases in the middle of the desert far from anyone. I cannot describe victory in Afghanistan. Do tell. It is worth Obama embracing the surge - he put 100,000 troops there for a significant time. Do tell.
Thing wrong about this is that Nixon wasn't tried as a war criminal....nor was Ho Chi Min....just once, I'd like to see a Denny post about REAL bad guys who are torturing women and children because they want to live in the medieval era forever. There are a lot of evil leaders out there that just get a free pass from you because it's Obama's fault......this is my point of contention...we have had a very even handed commander in chief...one of the best we've had in my lifetime. Optimism.....the long term plan that will take decades is a work in progress....our country has really stepped up....to protect Saudi Arabian borders Bush spent 60 billion, Saudi Arabia spent 32 billion.......this was during Desert Storm....yep.....it's a tad different from the cold war with China during the Viet Nam war
