CIA: Russia influenced the election

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  1. riverman

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    The best thing to come from this horrible election is that people with influence who were too comfortable got a huge wake up call.....I think we'll see more passion about transparency in govt than we've ever seen....I have no doubt this will be a time of radical change across the country.
     
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  2. Denny Crane

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    Seems you are the one that's "needlessly offended."

    The "needlessly" is the key word.

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  3. stampedehero

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    This Country faces a colossal tech failure linked with an entity from a long time rival Country. If it is a greasy faced kid or a sophisticated department, the bottom line is that our people screwed up because of their security negligence. This situation has become "Fubar" siphoned into a joint CIA/FBI investigation with Trump becoming a center point. Is Trump really clueless? These two agencies can trip and screw Trump as they wish. Trump has no idea what he is doing and getting into. He has not become a president and he has enemies in his own backyard. Only Jason Bourne could get out of this.
     
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    They all look like they injected powdered narcotics
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, that sounds like something a butt hurt person such as yourself would say.

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  6. Denny Crane

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    http://www.newsweek.com/cia-trump-p...ileaks-clinton-spies-intelligence-iraq-530666

    Updated | CIA veterans—none of them fans of Donald Trump–are urging caution about leaked allegations that Russia waged a secret campaign to put the New York Republican into the White House.

    “I am not saying that I don't think Russia did this,” Nada Bakos, a top former CIA counterterrorism officer tells Newsweek, in a typical comment. “My main concern is that we will rush to judgment. The analysis needs to be cohesive and done the right way.”

    Reports on the alleged Russian effort have been anything but cohesive, or complete. During a closed-door briefing to the House Intelligence Committee last week, a senior FBI counterintelligence official reportedly scoffed at the CIA’s conclusion that Russia had plotted to put Trump in office, calling the evidence “fuzzy” and “ambiguous.” Details of the meeting were leaked to The Washington Post.

    Another former senior official, who said he was reluctant to go on the record on “something that has obviously been politicized,” tells Newsweekthat he, too, is wary of reports that CIA knows for certain that the Kremlin designed a hacking campaign with the specific goal of electing Trump, as opposed to just damaging Hillary Clinton, a hawk on Russia. In order to know Moscow’s intentions, he said, U.S. intelligence would have to have more than cyber-tracks showing Russia’s spy services transferred emails it stole from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks, the whistleblower group led by Julian Assange.

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    Bakos, a key member of the CIA team charged with analyzing the relationship between Iraq, Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 attacks, said the public should be cautious about reports citing leaked intelligence from anonymous officials. Ill-founded and false reports–that Iraq possessed chemical and biological weapons and had acquired yellow-cake uranium for a nuclear bomb– she reminded readers, were used by the George W. Bush administration to justify the invasion of Iraq.

    “As we all learned from the Iraq war,” she tweeted, “there is more to the story than one nugget of yellow cake or intel, that's why an NIE is important.” She invited readers to explore the Senate Intelligence Committee’s 2004 report on how CIA intelligence was manipulated and misused.
     
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  7. Denny Crane

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    Whine on.
     
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    I find it sad that grown ups post dictionary definitions of their favorite words ...it's not that hard to spell or memorize...maybe Denny confuses butt hurt with Butthead......Beavis and Butthurt do America!
     
  9. Denny Crane

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    People question why I use the term. The definition explains it.

    There's only imagined merit to the stream of bullshit coming from twitter and the news.
     
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    I dealt with some of this stuff in the Navy during war.....if they discover a spy they want to leave him in place thinking he's unnoticed and feed him misinformation....this is what the intelligence community has always done .we did this to the Japanese during WWII all the time...if I leaked anything I'd have been court martialed immediately and interrogated in a military prison.....it's on the contract when you sign up that your civil rights are gone when you work for the govt.....they own your ass whether you think it's right or not and they can send lawyers at you until the end of time even if they're wrong....the govt buries a malcontent without blinking ...always been like that. the idea that twitter or TV have control of this shit is hilarious....
     
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  11. Denny Crane

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    What's not being reported is that there is something of a civil war going on in the CIA. There was a contingent who was opposed to W during his presidency and did their best to damage him. The same kind of group is leaking stuff to the left leaning media with the intent to damage Trump.

    The CIA just isn't nonpartisan anymore. That's what you get when you have unelected political appointees throughout the massive government bureaucracies.

    The CIA is also at war with the FBI.

    I'm sure if the CIA came out and told the truth about Clinton's server and failure to abide by the laws regarding security, the butt hurt crowd would be whining about that.
     
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  13. Denny Crane

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    http://thefederalist.com/2016/12/12/the-five-stages-of-losing-an-election-to-donald-trump/

    The 5 Stages Of Losing An Election To Donald Trump
    Never acceptance.

    1. Comey did it.
    2. Voting machines
    3. The Constitution screwed us again.
    4. Fake news.
    5. The Russians are coming.

    Of course, there will always be overarching theories about why Republicans win elections – like assuming half the country are racist. The Left is so enveloped by its identity politics, it may not understand that the other half of the country is sick of it. But, while I’m no fan of Donald Trump, Democrats have been demanding I panic over every cabinet pick, every statement and the things that are 1) the sort of things that were completely ok with them during the Obama administration and 2) the types of things that any mainstream Republican would engage in. Now, I’m not in the business of concern trolling, but before we shift to yet another conspiracy theory, it might behoove Democrats to look inward to explain their historic losses since the passage of Obamacare in 2010.
     
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    You're sure, are you. So how do you know the truth is so damaging? And given that the NSA was hacked but there's no evidence Clinton's private server was, maybe the lesson is that Clinton accidentally did the right thing?

    If you REALLY CARE to learn more about Clinton's emails, try this. It's actually pretty fascinating:

    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/601/master-of-her-domain-name
     
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    Guccifer 2.0 says he hacked Clinton's server. He provided links to files he copied off the server, including spreadsheets of donors, emails, etc.

    The FBI director said Guccifer's confession was not sufficient. The CIA now says Guccifer worked for the government and hacked the RNC and DNC as well as others.

    But not the criminal's homebrew email server?

    Not believable.
     
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    Seriously? Accidentally did the right thing? There's no evidence of a hack because her server lacked basic security protection. If you leave your wallet on the sidewalk there's not much evidence when it's lifted.
     
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    https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/

    GUCCIFER 2.0 DNC’S SERVERS HACKED BY A LONE HACKER
    Worldwide known cyber security company CrowdStrike announced that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) servers had been hacked by “sophisticated” hacker groups.

    I’m very pleased the company appreciated my skills so highly))) But in fact, it was easy, very easy.

    Guccifer may have been the first one who penetrated Hillary Clinton’s and other Democrats’ mail servers. But he certainly wasn’t the last. No wonder any other hacker could easily get access to the DNC’s servers.

    Shame on CrowdStrike: Do you think I’ve been in the DNC’s networks for almost a year and saved only 2 documents? Do you really believe it?

    Here are just a few docs from many thousands I extracted when hacking into DNC’s network.
     
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    CIA claims Guccifer 2.0 is a Russian entity of some sort. Seems the guy is a Romanian hacker, not Russian. Oops!


    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...breached-clinton-server-pleads-guilty-n580186

    Guccifer, Hacker Who Says He Breached Clinton Server, Pleads Guilty
    by PETE WILLIAMS

    A Romanian man who claims he broke into Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server — and did manage to hack into computer accounts of prominent world figures — pleaded guilty Wednesday in a U.S. courtroom.

    Marcel Lehel Lazar entered guilty pleas to charges of identity theft and unauthorized access to protected computers before a federal judge in Alexandria, Virginia.
     

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