Politics Civil War part 2! Which side will you fight for?

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  1. Rhal

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    The people tweeting and posting about a "civil war" are as likely to actually do anything if something happens to Trump as an NBA player is actually going to get into a real fight on the court. Instead it'll be an NBA fight, lots of talking and some shouting and nothing happens.
     
  2. Denny Crane

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    Pathetic attempt.

    It was a pro-property rights revolution. You can't weasel out of it.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    You don't follow him on twitter? Not surprising.
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I didn't use the word "comrade." I spell it right: "komrade."
     
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    It seems to me that the revolution has already begun. We have had attempts to bring down the President before, we have had crimes investigated before, but at least there was a crime committed before investigations began. The difference now is, we have investigations in search of a crime, that no one can find, except that Trump won.

    Never before has the Constitution been so completely ignored, not only by the left, but also those that identify themselves as the establishment. I see no grounds for having a special
    counsel empowered to investigate uninhibited and answerable to no one, answerable to the American people.
    "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years..." Whatever you call the current state, it can not fit
    under this clear statement in the Constitution. There is nothing to clear up, the Constitution is clear, an election has selected the Chief Executive for four years.

    Any people that do not accept this as lawful, are unlawful. Unlawfulness must have consequences.
     
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    Warfare doesn't look like it did 150 years ago. We don't line up and march towards each other while we trade shots.

    These morons have no idea what they're even talking about. What would they do? March on Washington? Start detonating roadside bombs? I'll say the same thing to them that I say to the people that liked to "protest" after Trump was elected: what's your end game? Overthrow the Government? Kill Democrats? There has to be some kind of long term goal. If you do succeed in overthrowing the Government, then what? I can guarantee they will find way more people fighting back if they think they're going to install some kind of Christian regime.
     
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    When you no longer have any arguments, bang the table.
     
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    Roadside bombs work. Asymmetric warfare is how it would be done.

    We have a mechanism for regime change: elections. Bring it on.
     
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    The facts are on my side, though.

    It was a pro-property rights revolution. You can't weasel out of it.
     
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    But you say that all the time, even though you've admitted many times that you're only here to "troll liberals."

    So why would this time be different, Denny? Can you explain that?
     
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    the earth's rotation never ends....everyday is a revolution!! civil war is a silly prediction....if anything far fetched happens under the tweeterinchief it'll be secession...not war
     
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    Curious how they'd target their enemy. Would they just roam around and shoot anyone that isn't wearing a red hat? Go door to door and ask who we voted for and shoot us when we don't say Trump? How would this work? Invade liberal cities and just assume everyone is an enemy and just start shooting? This is a really weird fucking thing to say or think. Wacko, racist, gun toting, dipshits.
     
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    So what are you so afraid of, if you think no crimes have been committed?

    If no crimes have been committed, then the investigation will not be able to find any, and it will all be a big nothingburger. Not something to be afraid of.

    Of course, it might be that Trump has a long history of shady behavior and that there actually are crimes that will be discovered.

    Hypothetically supposing there are, should he get a pass in your opinion?

    barfo
     
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    The idea that the left would be able to mount a true resistance in an armed revolt is laughable. The ANTIFA, BLM extremists can only exist when left leaning communities allow them to be disruptive. I dare them to take their side show on the road to an arena less friendly. That, I would buy a ticket to watch, if not participate in convincing them that they are not to be tolerated.
     
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    One major problem.... well..... two major problems.

    One: The so called "left" most likely outnumbers the truly right wing states. Most of the most densely populated cities and states are located in liberal strongholds.

    Two: Those same cities and states will have waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money than the cities and states in the south and the flyover states.

    Not much has changed since the first civil war. The south had superior generals, they had soldiers who grew up in an environment that lended itself to warfare (gun culture, etc) but the North won. Why? Economy. They could simply outproduce the south. They had more industry. It's the same reason why we beat the Germans in WWII. They had superior technology. We just outproduced them. That's how we win wars.

    So yes, the south has more gun owners, and more people that can shoot, but in a war of attrition they're going to lose. They will be painted as extremists. As racists. As bigots and religious zealots. The moderates and the liberals will band together.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-approval-rate-time-low-slip-support-base/story?id=49015043

    Trump currently has a 33% approval rating among registered voters, and conversely he has a 61% DISAPPROVAL rating. I don't think their "civil war 2.0" will gain as much momentum as they think.
     
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    Yeah, few civilians, right or left politically, are equipped to handle some nutcases shooting at people randomly. Good luck with the army, though.

    Unless you're one of those people who believe the army is secretly waiting for the high-sign from Free Republic to "take back the country."
     
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    The Union Army had a massive stream of immigrants to build their army...millions of Europeans traded service for citizenship....ironic given the current White House culture against immigration.
     
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    I could actually see the US splitting up, sparked by the 'war on sanctuary cities'. If federal funds actually were withdrawn from cities/states, that would probably cause a secession movement to avoid sending money to the federal government.

    It's pretty far-fetched, as I don't think that the funding cutoff can actually happen. But if it did, and if the coasts seceded, then we might have a civil war.

    And after the war was over, I think we'd probably not have rural states with outsized power anymore.

    barfo
     
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    An armed revolution in this day and age would be the biggest clusterfuck I can possibly imagine. I have a hard time believing people are going to put on red or blue armbands for easy identification. The only discernible "sides" would be what, race? Well, that'll be fun.
     
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    I wouldn't expect any formal secession. If the Trump administration successfully managed to cut off federal funds to states with "sanctuary cities," (which I, also, don't expect to be successful), and those states then refused to send money to the federal government, what could the federal government do about it? Sue, of course, but any court orders (assuming, again, successful litigation) could only be enforced by military force. I don't think Trump and Sessions want to go quite that far.

    It would be quite a crisis, though.
     

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