as Mr. Platypus explained, this is all about CJ drafting off of Dame and Nurk (and Aminu) that single stat is devoid of any meaningful context, I mean, why not at least examine the other starters and compare: on-court: Jusuf Nurkic +8.8 Al-Farouq Aminu +6.5 Damian Lillard +5.3 CJ McCollum +4.7 Jake Layman +4.4 Seth Curry +1.6 Maurice Harkless -0.9 on-off: Jusuf Nurkic +16.6 Damian Lillard +14.3 Al-Farouq Aminu +13.1 CJ McCollum +10.1 Jake Layman +3.8 Seth Curry 0.0 Maurice Harkless -3.3 there are other metrics besides on/off as well winshares/48: Damian Lillard .189 Jusuf Nurkic .182 Meyers Leonard .156 Jake Layman .123 Al-Farouq Aminu .120 Zach Collins .107 CJ McCollum .093 Maurice Harkless .093 Evan Turner .056 box plus/minus: Jusuf Nurkic 5.5 Damian Lillard 5.0 Meyers Leonard 1.5 Al-Farouq Aminu 1.0 Maurice Harkless 0.9 Zach Collins 0.3 Jake Layman 0.0 CJ McCollum -0.7 Evan Turner -1.5 I'm curious...where exactly did you find those numbers at bbref? that seems like a useful tool
The individual player's net rating is under "play-by-play"; the minutes and net rating with a specific teammate is found in "lineups", and the values without said teammate were calculated based on those other figures.
thanks....I knew most of it but I really wanted numbers spoon-fed to me so I wouldn't have to work. I'll put you on retainer...check is in the mail not quite....you couldn't help yourself and just had to add a passive/aggressive dig at "CJ detractors" and, are you saying you're not responsible for things you post?
Cup, can you please read the threads where this has already been discussed. That stat he posted is actually really bad for those trying to make a case for CJ.
I'm not going to search through every thread to find something out. If the mods have an issue with my post, then they can move it where they feel it is appropriate.
so are you going to leave S2 now? You post plenty of crap that I don't like or think is appropriate but i don't attack you. I would appreciate the same courtesy. You don't like my posts, put me on ignore and it's taken care of. It won't hurt my feelings but please don't tell me what and how I should post. If you choose to respond to my posts I would also appreciate you discuss the topic and not me.
Sometimes this forum is no different than any Lakers forum. It's Kobe... i mean Lillard fans against the rest of the Blazers fans. Even the best of Shooting guards had off nights, nights were they shot 2/12 or played shitty defense so get over it and stop making such a big deal about every mistake he makes. We could do a lot worse than CJ as our 2nd-3rd banana. I watch other team's feeds for our games and their commentators drool over our back-court.
