CJ plays defense

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  1. Mr. Robot

    Mr. Robot Well-Known Member

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    Nurk made those two to play defense, no fucking around when Nurks there
     
  2. Mediocre Man

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    I did. Losing fans blame the refs
     
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    I agree with you. And it also also should end the argument by many on this board that it is the size of the backcourt that is the determining factor for their below average D. Anyone who watches Patty Mills play defense for SA compared to when he was in Portland should have figured that out. (Effort and system are huge factors) CP3 is under 6' and excels at defending bigger players.

    Most guards in the NBA have just as much trouble staying in front of smaller lighting quick guards then they do bigger guards. And if size was such a factor, why can't bigger guards shut down CJ or Dame without a double team?

    The fact that we haven't played very good defense is a legitimate frustration. But the size of our backcourt has been overblown IMO. Our forwards have struggled too.
     
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    Team defense correlates directly with coaching in my opinion. Players can be taught how to play effective defense. Defense has never been Stotts strong suit so I'm not surprised they have struggled in that area. I'm curious why they have improved so far this season. Did Stotts have a revelation?
     
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  5. Orion Bailey

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    LMAO. 3 people liked it, so yes you are in the overwhleming majority... lol

    If I were Dame I would be insulted by you thinking you KNOW what effort he puts in.

    you do know you can put 100% effort into something and still not be good, or still not succeed right????

    my lord......They things people seem to think they KNOW... lol
     
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  6. Mediocre Man

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    If you think Dame's effort on defense is the same this year as in years past, we can't have a discussion.
     
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    But that... eh.
     
  8. Orion Bailey

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    Yes and no. I'm saying maybe he didn't know when the best time to put in the effort is and when he should focus on D because others have his back.

    The best defensive teams are just that a defensive TEAM.

    I'm saying that YOU saying you KNOW he wasn't putting as much effort is as good as me saying I own a bridge... wanna buy it? I don't own shit and you don't know shit. ;)
     
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    Not gonna go with the whole DPOTY thingy.
    But maybe you could change the title to the thread to " CJ plays GOOD defense"
     
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    You could see it. You know it too
     
  11. Orion Bailey

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    And now your telling me what I know and dont know? Do you not see my point and your delusionary knowledge????

    My lord..... again.....
     
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    Youre arguing to argue
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Welcome to RC2 !
     
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    We can go back and forth arguing about whatever but I'm not going to. Just because you're not a good Defender doesn't mean you don't give effort and Dame has always given effort. I'm done debating with you because you have a completely different View no matter how wrong it is.
     
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    That's why I ended mine with you.
     
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    Yeah that was kind of like Bill Walton commenting on CJ's defense.
     
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    Really? NO, IM trying to get you to see the light. You are stating you KNOW something as a fact when you dont. And THATS a fact.....

    I personally think he has given 100% as far as he believes, and maybe he has now realized or learned through experience, there may be more than one way to be a good defender, which is true. And maybe his effort needs to be direct more to one certain type than another, which could possibly make him a better defender without actually exerting any more effort.

    You are the one arguing just to argue when you tell people you know what they know.....
     
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    So you'r saying Dame went from shitty to good in a summer, and none of it is effort?
     
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    No, maybe he is saying that Dame is being taught/trying different things and now with a big in the paint it allows his SAME effort to provide better Defense.

    You can post such a narrow minded viewpoints at times its mind boggling to think if you are actually able to see anything other than what you believe.... not what you know, but what you believe.

    You know when we stop living right? When we stop learning. ;)
     
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