OT Cleveland Indians vs. Chicago Cubs series thread..

Cubs up 3-0!

 

Can we please put this lie to bed?

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

"To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. If, for example, President Eisenhower had said in the mid-1960s that he, while president, "took the initiative in creating the Interstate Highway System," he would not have been the subject of dozens and dozens of editorials lampooning him for claiming he "invented" the concept of highways or implying that he personally went out and dug ditches across the country to help build the roadway. Everyone would have understood that Eisenhower meant he was a driving force behind the legislation that created the highway system, and this was the very same concept Al Gore was expressing about himself with interview remarks about the Internet."

There.

GO CUBS.

 

I thought the interstate highways were started as a result of WWI?

 

I thought they were started as a result of congestion in the downtown areas, so traffic could be diverted around for those passing through?

 

Because it's a lie. Plus I'd say there are lots of people (conservatives) that actually believe it.

 

Regardless of why, Eisenhower was a huge reason why they came to be. He wasn't out digging trenches though.

 

Ok I looked it up, the first attempts at interstate highways was in 1916, it was stalled by the financial burden of WWI. Eisenhower was a Lt. Colonel during WWI and along with the army, went on a cross country road trip. The trip was part victory lap, part recruiting, and part "let's see how easily our army can travel our own country in case of invasion". The roads were in horrible condition, and Eisenhower thought something needed to be done about it. After WWII Eisenhower pushed heavily for better interstate highways. This was influenced by that trip in 1919, as well as seeing how easily the nazis travelled using the autobahn.

 

GO CUBS!!!!

 

It's an exaggeration. Pretty sure SNL made it into a big thing. It was the same way with Sarah Palin. She never actually said "I can see Russia from my back window," but because they said it on SNL, many people thought that she actually said it.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/russia.asp

 

Of course it's a lie. I invented the internet. And Hillary Clinton raped me, about 16 years ago.

 

Today at school I heard two teachers talking, one of them said he was rooting against Cleveland because he "took exception" to their logo, the other responded with "oh yeah, it's totally racist". Does anybody else think so? It's obviously not racist, based on the definition of the word. But racially insensitive maybe? I can see why people dont like the Washington red skins name. No one likes being called a white skin, or a yellow skin, or a black skin, or a brown skin. But I really don't see how the Cleveland Indians is racially insensitive (RI) at all.. are the Minnesota Vikings RI? The New England patriots? The Boston celtics? I could go on and on...

 

Plus, these teams took the names Indians, Chiefs, Braves, because they were warriors. It's not meant to be an insult.

 

Seriously, I remember thinking it was so cool that the Kansas City Chiefs were a team as a little kid.

 

They aren't, that was my point...
And how is the Viking logo not a caricature of Vikings? That's exactly what it is.... or it wouldn't be the logo... Vikings were also murdering assholes, I'm part Scandinavian, maybe I don't want to be associated with a bunch of people that travelled around and raped and pillaged and enslaved a bunch of Irish people (which I'm also part Irish).
As for the patriots, not everyone wanted a revolution, there were a lot of loyalists to the crown, and they thought the people fighting in the revolution were crazy extremists. Not all white people from New England were patriots.... the Boston celtics is self explanatory.

The only thing that ties the Cleveland logo to native Americans, is the feather. Which is actually historically accurate.... Should they have whitewashed their logo?

 

What about the Notre Dame fighting Irish? Maybe I don't want to be stereotyped as a violent Irishman?

 

And the logo of the patriots is a white person wearing a hat of that time period. What about all the black people that fought for our independence? Some of them probably didn't even have a hat. What's that team trying to say? Only white people with hats were patriots?