Climate change and wildfire in the Pacific Northwest

Nah, that's african american. Making tires out of the kid would be racist.

 

This wildfire issue is interesting with global warming issue.

With budgets being what they are (never enough money) do you allocate more money to wildfire prevention. If one believes this type of summer is one or so every 40 yrs (being compared to wildfires in the 70's), then you don't allocate more money to it. If one believes this is a trend that will continue and get worse, you almost have to allocate more money to wildfire prevention (even with no money available) given the millions it costs the state when summer like this happen.

I hope they allocate more money to this issue . . . but obviously I fall on the side of believing wildfires will continue to worsen as global warming continues.

 

The Chinese had a forest fire solution, they just clear cut all the forests and turned the country into a vast desert allowing diplomatic relations with Norway to thrive as they buy icebergs from Norway to bottle into drinking water. No trees, no forest fires.

 

I have no idea if our wildfire situation is related to some global climate change. It's too easy to pick any few incidence and assign a cause that doesn't apply. It's why we also must separate weather from climate. You get a hot day, that may or may not be related to climate change. You get enough hot days year over year to show a trend, that's something to pay attention to with regards to climate change. You see the sea levels rise, that's a possible indicator of climate change. You have worsening wildfires globally year over year, that's something you may be able to connect to climate change. I haven't heard that this is the case. So for me, it's just a bad wildfire season. We need to be honest about evidence and not scaremonger or it bites our very valid theories in the ass. Aim for clarity and then perhaps more will see the truth.

 

This appears to me to be one piece of information without the rest. How many days have been 80 - 90? What has been happening to the mean temp? What has been happening to the cold days, have they been warming? For those days that do break 90, are they going higher than they had in the past?

It's fine to point that out, I assume it's relevant. But it also must be understood in relation to many other variables. It's possible for your statement to be totally true and still have global climate change affected by humans, even global warming. I am not a climate scientist, I don't know all the facts, nor do I understand how all those facts come together. That's why we build those models, to try and understand all the complications.

 

Absolutely, Denny attacks so much of the science out there and then throw out a meaningless fact like it means something.

 

Wildfires situation not letting up:

ASHLAND, Ore. (AP) — Oregon residents in a community near Ashland were told Thursday evening to leave their homes immediately as a wildfire spread rapidly across grassland in southwest Oregon and lightning sparked two new large fires.

The growth of the Oregon Gulch fire forced the Jackson County sheriff's office to issue an evacuation notice. The fire burned about 3,000 acres in the Cascade-Siskiyou National Monument on Thursday evening, said Brian Ballou, a spokesman with the state Department of Forestry.

The lightning-sparked fire was reported at about 100 acres earlier in the day. It grew significantly through the day, fueled by swirling winds and extremely dry conditions, Ballou said.

Ballou said he wasn't sure how many people live in the sparsely-populated ranching area, but he estimated it could be a few dozen people.

"Everybody is evacuating," Tracie Gibson, a resident at Fall Creek Ranch, told the Mail Tribune.

Lightning sparked two new large wildfires in the southwest and central parts of the state. The Beaver Complex, which includes the Oregon Gulch fire, is burning about 20 miles northwest of Medford. The Haystack Complex is burning about 9 miles northwest of Kimberly in central Oregon.

At the regional fire center in Portland, spokeswoman Carol Connolly said Thursday morning that more than 40 small fires were reported in the previous 24 hours. Nearly 500,000 acres — about 780 square miles — are burning in the state.

Hot weather remains in the forecast, and officials expect lightning and thunderstorms to ignite more new fires.

 

Yep, wildfires suck. I've been to my cabin in S. Oregon some years where you couldn't see to the other end of Lake of the Woods. What that has to do with AGW/ACC, I have no idea.

 

About as much as Obama having Katy Perry at the white house.

 

Just last year, the 'models' predicted even more water loss from the Great Lakes. Instead of dropping further, they are rising rapidly. How did the 'models' get this so wrong?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/64975

Lake Superior, the Great Lakes and Europe Defy Climate Experts

 

Up to date report:

The scope and intensity of the California blazes, three of them sparked by dry lightning as the state copes with a severe drought, was comparable to the fire activity the state doesn't usually see until September, California Department of Forestry and Fire protection Dennis Mathisen said.

The fires were burning as far south as the Sierra National Forest, about 70 miles from where another blaze sparked evacuations in and around Yosemite National Park earlier in the week, and as far north as the state border, where a blaze that began in southern Oregon had consumed 5.5 square miles and threatened about two dozen homes in California's Siskiyou County.

The Day Fire in Modoc County had burned 12,500 acres and was only 15% contained by Saturday afternoon, according to CalFire.

"When we pop one or two fires at a time, that's one thing, but when you get dry lightning strikes that pop up all over the place, that's when things become a challenge," Mathisen said.

Thirty fires were reported in Oregon over 24 hours, the Central Oregon Interagency Dispatch Center said Saturday.

http://www.weather.com/news/update/california-oregon-washington-wildfires-20140802