Politics C'Mon, Dems....

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  1. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    BTW, just watched Ford vs. Ferrari. Really good movie.
     
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    actually, it was the stupid fucking obsolete unjust electoral college

    Hillary was a woman and a flawed candidate, but she got 3 million more votes
     
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    I am sorry, but it was people that DID vote for Trump or people did not vote because they believed the Russian propaganda that both were just as bad which put Trump in the white-house. Even if Hillary was a compromised candidate - anyone that believes or believed she would be as incompetent as Trump is deluding themselves. So, no, let's not rewrite history. If you voted for Trump and you lose your job or life or savings right now - it is not because of the Democrats.
     
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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/26/cuomo_rising_biden_wandering_142770.html

    ......Cuomo’s rise is an unalloyed benefit for his state and the nation’s largest city, but it is not an unalloyed benefit for his party. To almost any sentient observer, it looks like the Democrats have picked the wrong guy to oppose Trump this fall. But the Democrats have painted themselves into a corner. They can’t simply stride out across the wet paint now that Biden has effectively won the nomination. He won it in open primaries, with settled rules, and there’s no way to change them.

    Biden won’t offer the party an easy escape. He won’t suddenly renounce the prize he has sought his entire adult life. And even if Uncle Joe woke up with a horse’s head in his bed and backed out, Bernie Sanders would say, “Hey, I’m next. No cutting in line.” In that unlikely scenario, the Democratic Party would undoubtedly reject the hardline socialist at their convention in Milwaukee, but doing so would enrage his staunch supporters and fracture the party unity necessary to defeat Trump. 

    So why not nominate Cuomo for vice president and hint that Biden would step aside after one term? That’s certainly possible, but it risks a fatal head-on collision with the Democrats’ deep commitment to identity politics. A Biden-Cuomo ticket would be made up of -- gasp -- two older white men. Where is the woman on that ticket? Where is the African American? How exactly did they get pushed aside in a party that is built upon the rock (or is it sand?) of identity politics? Moreover, Biden has actually promised, in public and on tape, that he will select a woman for his running mate. Cuomo walks into the wrong bathroom.

    For Biden to jettison his gender-based promise is more than a matter of flip-flopping. Politicians do that all the time and sometimes get away with it. That’s not so easy this time because the excluded groups get a say -- in November. They might not vote for Trump, but they might not vote at all.

    This election will ultimately hinge on how the Democrats solve the vexed problem of Biden’s weakness and how Trump solves the twin problems of public health and economic reemergence. The Democrats will try to make it a referendum on Trump. The president will say, “Look at the alternative. Good heavens, just look.”

    Democrats must be wondering, as Cuomo rises and Biden bumbles, how they will answer that challenge.
     
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    Not sure which group was the attorney, but being one I will say that yes, we all like money (who doesn't?) but we take an OATH to "zealously represent" our clients. I can't get disbarred for being greedy, but I can get disbarred for not putting my client first, especially over money.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Trump spent billions of his own money getting elected. On top of that, he's turned down the $400k salary of POTUS. My guess is, if it were all about the money to him, he would have never ran in the first place.
     
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    Hilarious, given the money he is milking from the government to house his security detail in his hotels and the huge tax breaks he gave for companies and people in his tax bracket. You are a very funny guy.
     
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    agree..but it was blue dogs and independents in those states. Shouldn't happen again. I know herds of dems in Wisconsin that voted Tump because they couldn't stand Hillary. These are dems that work in factories, hang the flag proudly from rafters, ride Harley's and drink allot of beer. Most have a bad taste for anything left coast or NE.
     
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    thats is not true, totally. The dislike for Clinton swayed blue dogs and independents in the states of WI, PN, MI & Ohio.
     
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    Thanks
     
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    No, he didn't spend billions to get elected.

    That is fake news.
     
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    and those are the same people that supported Obama.
     
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    its ok to acknowledge where one went wrong, thats how to improve. Everyone and every organization has strengths and weakness thats the premise for an improvement plan. And yo don't want competition playing against your weakness. Its does'nt always have to be, they are 100% right or wrong thats a recipe for bad communication and & progress.
     
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    There’s always room to shit on politicians. Besides, this isn’t a low-bar contest. I thought Democrats were trying to improve the situation, not continue it.
     
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    Biden is a huge improvement over Trump, even if you believe there might be better candidates than him.
     
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    well, technically they're trying to. Biden is better than Clinton was.
     
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    when you get your news from "real clear politics" it's real clear that your politics are not based in reality but spin.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    It was a simple Google search. I rarely go to that site, other than to occasionally look at polls.

    Speaking of which, who is your trusted news source?
     

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