I hope they go with 12/22 start. No excuse not too imo. They a bunch of time off before the bubble and never traveled in the bubble. These are young people that should be able to get on with it in order to help to help the league and those other jobs that rely on the nba.
Pretty sure their own salaries get cut if there is less games, so I don't see any reason why they would vote for a 60 game season over 72.
In my opinion, the overwhelming majority of players haven't played in almost 8 months in some cases and want to get back at it. And yes, they would lose money on the shortened season. EVERYBODY does.
summary of the tweets through wednesday https://www.hoopsrumors.com/ NBA, NBPA Moving Toward Agreement On December 22 Start November 4th, 2020 at 3:49pm CST by Luke Adams The NBA’s Board of Governors and the National Basketball Players Association will hold separate calls on Thursday that are expected to culminate in an agreement on a December 22 start date for the 2020/21 regular season, according to Adrian Wojnarowski and Zach Lowe of ESPN. As Shams Charania of The Athletic previously reported, the NBPA is expected to vote before the end of the week on the league’s December 22 proposal. Wojnarowski and Lowe say that vote will likely take place on Thursday night and that everything is progressing toward a deal between the NBA and the players’ union. Per Woj and Lowe, the union is holding team conference calls prior to Thursday night – including several today – to provide details on the plan for 2020/21, including how the salary escrow will work going forward. As Charania reported on Wednesday and as ESPN’s duo confirms, rather than holding a significant percentage (25-40%) of players’ salaries in escrow for ’20/21, the modified escrow figure is expected to be around 18% and will be applied to multiple seasons, smoothing out the losses for players. Since the NBA and its players split revenue roughly 50/50 and the league is projecting a significant revenue decline for ’20/21, increasing the salary escrow is necessary to account for the losses from the players’ side. According to ESPN’s Bobby Marks (Twitter link), an 18% escrow for next season would withhold about $720MM from the players, not counting the reduced pay based on a 72-game schedule instead of an 82-game slate. The league and the union are still negotiating that 18% figure though, Woj and Lowe note. Once the NBA and NBPA reach an agreement on the salary cap, escrow, season start date, and all the other major aspects of the Collective Bargaining Agreement that need to be tweaked, the transaction moratorium can be lifted and dates for free agency can officially be set. As Charania detailed on Wednesday, a 72-game season that starts on December 22 is expected to end around mid-May, with the Finals finishing around July 22, just in time for the Tokyo Olympics. The NBA is planning for a 25% reduction in travel, with a six-day All-Star break in early March. Training camps would open on or around December 1. A number of players had been advocating for a later opening night, given how long the 2019/20 season ran, and January 18 was the other start date being considered. However, as Lakers forward Jared Dudley explained today during an appearance on SiriusXM NBA Radio with Frank Isola (audio link), the NBA’s proposal of a December 22 start date and 72-game season is the only option that makes financial sense for players. “We’ll vote on it, but to be honest with you, there’s no real vote. No one’s playing 55 games. We’ve got to play 72,” Dudley said. “It’s the money thing.” The NBA has estimated that starting the season before Christmas will save upwards of $500MM to $1 billion in future revenue, per ESPN and other outlets.
Among those impacted by major injuries during the bubble include issacs, jaren Jackson, our own Collins, Gordon Hayward, Dame, Ben Simmons Marvin bagley, justice Winslow, sabonis. All would benefit from a later start date and longer rehab.
In a shortened season with early start who will blazers trot out at pf, back up center if Collins no can go ? Will it impact potential trades and draft and playoff hopes? Future contracts are riding on it too.
The start-up capital alone it would take for players to form a league that would pay them what they make in the NBA makes it impossible. Plus you need arenas, TV contracts, marketing, and likely there wouldn’t be as many teams, which means small markets like Portland wouldn’t make the cut. Fewer total players as well. I watch pro basketball because of the Portland Trail Blazers, period. If the Blazers ever leave Portland, I’d be like Sonic fans and just move on from the NBA. As a fan, I’d have no rooting interest in a new league created by players. None. I know that younger people tend to follow players instead of teams, but those aren’t the people buying first-level season tickets. If the owners feel they need to start soon after they have taken huge losses from last season, the players aren’t really going to have much of a choice. Summer basketball playoffs were simply not a good product, it was like watching really pick-up games in an empty gym, and whatever side of it you’re on, the political stance of last season post-Covid turned away some fans that aren’t coming back. It doesn’t bother me at all but clearly it has made a negative impact on some scale.
I can’t see guys wanting a paycheck caring much about injured players not being able to start on 12/22. Injuries happen all the time.
many/most will have the resources to pause, agents also. has to be fair in their opinion concerning more than just the start date. the escrow holding, the percentages and what that will entail as far as gambling revenues and new revenue streams the league will explore that are not part of the current agreement.
I do not think 11 of the 22 teams were out by August 13, where are you getting data? Training camp began June 30, Scrimmages started July 22. Seeding games ended August 14 (27% of teams eliminated) First round ended September 2nd (64% of teams eliminated).
Call today they are discussing 18%-20% in escrow over the next 3 years. Realistically, players won't ever see that money. These guys are gonna lose a legit amount of money.
