Politics Colorado Supreme Court Rules Trump is Ineligible to Appear on Ballot Due to 14th Amendment

Holy Schnikies. This same rhetoric is used all the time in politics by both sides. Stop for a minute, take a deep breath and think about what you are saying. Are making statements like this grounds to take someone off the ballot?

 

I literally have zero problem with anything you’ve said here, you are completely entitled to your opinions about the orange person and, believe it or not, I find most of them to be well-founded and perfectly acceptable criticisms of a person like Donald Trump.
My issue here is the loose interpretation of laws and statements being used to constitute very serious crimes and accusations, and the precedent it sets for our country moving forward. These precedents will surely be used against the other side when the opportunity arises, so on and so fourth. Our rule of law is decimated at the point where opinions of a group or individual are used to pass judgement. It’s just not how justice is supposed to work. Pointing out the weaponization of the justice system being an extremely dangerous practice and a slippery slope for us all is not meant to be a defense of Donald Trump as a person.

 

Thanks Mr. Obvious. That "his fake elector scheme and asking Pence was not a good thing" is like saying water is wet. It was also blatantly illegal. For which he has been charged and for which he will be tried. You calling anyone's reality "warped" is irony personified. Again, you need to broaden your informational horizons.......

 

Agreed 100% Both sides suck. But I'm old enough to recall the early 90's when all this shit started to ramp up exponentially. It was Gingrich, Limbaugh, et al who hijacked and perfected the negativity and dishonesty to a fine art. Their attacks on the Clinton family were the blueprint for what's happening today. They were incensed that they lost, so took to the lowest road, rather than wait for 4 years. And it probably cost them the '96 election. Had they shown more respect for the American people and the institutions that exist to serve THE PEOPLE instead of their own little fiefdoms, we likely would not be where we are today. We can debate this for decades, but my experiences and observations tell me that the left is only responding in kind. This shit doesn't happen in a vacuum......

 

That doesn't get us anywhere near "insurrection". Many presidents have done illegal things. Obama actually openly murdered an American Citizen. And all of the other stuff they are going after Trump over is absurd. I only isolate that one aspect to be intellectually honest.

 

According to your definition. I guess we'll see what the Georgia court decides. If he is convicted as charged, he is then, by any and every definition of the word, guilty of insurrection. So.........Georgia gets to decide which one of us is correct. And then, if he is indeed found to be guilty, he is then ineligible (or should be) for office. So yeah, my earlier comments DO get us somewhere near "insurrection". Very much somewhere.

 

No, those are included as well. Do you know the meanings of those words?

in·sur·rec·tion:
a violent uprising against an authority or government.

In·cit·ing:
the action of provoking unlawful behavior or urging someone to behave unlawfully.

 

If it results in an assault on the democratic process, absolutely.

That is literally almost exactly the legal definition of inciting an insurrection.

*Edit* Especially when he waited untill it had already failed to tell people to go home...

 

Wow. Even more damning.

 

Ok, so by this defintion the BLM and Antifa riots, which many democratic leaders supported, is insurrection. So let's get to banning.....this will be a fun and productive game.

 

Show me what evidence you have on somebody and if it's as bad as what Trump said and resulted in a mob's immediate attempt to subvert the democratic process I'll agree.

 

Stretch any harder you’ll pull something.

 

I'm not a news outlet but I am an informed voter who knows the difference between a lie and the truth. That's really all you need to know about me. Trump took himself down by his own blustering bullshit...you can ignore it and think it's fabricated by people like me but it's on him ...Liz Cheney hardly long ago decided to take down the republican power base...she just is an honest republican...one of a dozen or so serving during his administration. Listen to his call to the Governor of Georgia and his speech about marching on the Capitol until he walked it back hours later when people had died already. He resisted that little written damage control speech you quoted according to everyone in the building with him, including his daughter. I don't have to catch you up on the details of Trump's attempted power grab but I don't think you'd pay any attention to them if I did. Also I asked you about your vote....crickets. If you don't vote, we have nothing to talk about anyway.