For the NY Giants they need a LT, OLB, CB. There is Jon Beason, who IMO is the best OLB in the draft, a very athletic Vilma like LB. There is also the speedster CB Chris Houston. Joe Staley would be a reach here
Anyone disagree with Adam Carriker to Denver? He seems to be the logical pick since he's arguably the best player on the board and they missed out on signing Patrick Kerney.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Anyone disagree with Adam Carriker to Denver? He seems to be the logical pick since he's arguably the best player on the board and they missed out on signing Patrick Kerney.</div> Denver needs pass rush help... what about Moss from Florida or Spencer from Purdue at this spot? Jim Bates needs a Jason Taylor like presence on the D Line.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Anyone disagree with Adam Carriker to Denver? He seems to be the logical pick since he's arguably the best player on the board and they missed out on signing Patrick Kerney.</div> Denver needs pass rush help... what about Moss from Florida or Spencer from Purdue at this spot? Jim Bates needs a Jason Taylor like presence on the D Line.</div> Carriker is better though. He can rush and play the run. I really don't see them taking anyone else here if he's on the board. Spencer and Moss included.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porky88)</div><div class='quotemain'>Anyone disagree with Adam Carriker to Denver? He seems to be the logical pick since he's arguably the best player on the board and they missed out on signing Patrick Kerney.</div> Denver needs pass rush help... what about Moss from Florida or Spencer from Purdue at this spot? Jim Bates needs a Jason Taylor like presence on the D Line.</div> Carriker is better though. He can rush and play the run. I really don't see them taking anyone else here if he's on the board. Spencer and Moss included.</div> Carriker is more complete, but... As a Packers fan, You are somewhat familar w/ the Jimmy Johnson scheme which Bates and some college coach in the Steel city use. In said scheme, you need 2 shutdown CB's which Denver now has, 2 Big DT's, fast & rangy LB's which Denver has even w/o Wilson, & of course a pass rush specialist (RDE). The other DE is more well rounded i.e Carriker but I just can't see Denver spending a 1st rounder on a LDE in this scheme. Ogunleye played opposite J Taylor for years and was a UDFA (if memory serves). Denver should go w/ Moss JMO
I thought Grubbs was a major reach, Guards dont typically go in the 1st round. Kalil is better than Grubbs and fits better into their zone blocking system. I think with the next pick, the cowboys should pick Carriker. He would be perfect for that 3-4 DE.
my bad fellas, i thought we were waiting til the actual draft date 2 do it, i woulda picked alan brach 4 san fran, and i was gonna go wit a d-line man 4 denver but i didnt know how much time i had left so i just threw a name out there. sorry about dat again fellas
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Grubbs was a major reach, Guards dont typically go in the 1st round. Kalil is better than Grubbs and fits better into their zone blocking system.</div> Grubbs was a reach but not a choice. Per Fox Sports Rocky Mtn, the Broncos will become more of a dropback passing team with Cutler henve the need for bigger OL. Kalil is a Center and only a Center as I understand. FWIW, It was FSRM that mentioned the Broncos were thinking about Moss. I recently purchased Street & Smiths Draft preview but can't recall who was their #1 DE. Once I heard the Broncos which way the Broncos might lean and who the Def Co-ord is it all fell into place. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think with the next pick, the cowboys should pick Carriker. He would be perfect for that 3-4 DE.</div> Carriker would be a good fit. Even w/ the signing of Hamlin, The Cowboys secondary could use an upgrade.... Leon Hall? No, Jerry Jones went to Arkansas and I believe Houston is still on our board.
I'm down. ROUND2 order 1 33 Oakland 2 34 Detroit 3 35 Tampa Bay 4 36 Cleveland 5 37 Chicago (from Washington through New York Jets) 6 38 Arizona 7 39 Atlanta (from Houston) 8 40 Miami 9 41 Minnesota 10 42 San Francisco 11 43 Buffalo 12 44 Atlanta 13 45 Carolina 14 46 Pittsburgh 15 47 Green Bay 16 48 Jacksonville 17 49 Cincinnati 18 50 Tennessee 19 51 N.Y. Giants 20 52 St. Louis 21 53 Dallas 22 54 Kansas City 23 55 Seattle 24 56 Denver 25 57 Philadelphia 26 58 New Orleans 27 59 N.Y. Jets 28 60 Miami (from New England) 29 61 Baltimore 30 62 San Diego 31 63 N.Y. Jets (from Chicago) 32 64 Tampa Bay (from Indianapolis)
Certainly not a need pick, but with the top LBs taken Carriker presented the best value. He fits the Pats scheme perfectly & his stock has risen greatly since the Senior Bowl.
Well this is a big dude that could spell Seymour & Warren. The Pats have the luxury of drafting value over need especially with another pick at 28.
