OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. SlyPokerDog

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    Oregon COVID-19 hospitalizations increase 500%, officials request out-of-state help

    Every day since Aug. 10, Oregon has set a record for new COVID-19 hospitalizations.

    On Thursday morning, there were 845 COVID-19 patients being treated in hospitals. Oregon Health Authority Director Patrick Allen says that's more than a 500% increase since July 19.

    "I want to be honest, the situation in Oregon hospitals is growing increasingly dire," Allen said.

    A majority of these patients hospitalized are unvaccinated, and it's having a devastating ripple effect.

    "Oregonians sick with COVID-19, nearly all of them unvaccinated, are filling hospital beds in record numbers, and this poses a critical threat to all Oregonians in need of hospital care," Dr. Dean Sidelinger, Oregon's state health officer, said.

    Sidelinger says the unvaccinated are risking their own health and the health of loved ones and strangers alike.

    State leaders are urging people to get vaccinated and not shying away from blaming people who won't get vaccinated.

    "I need to be direct about what’s causing this crisis, a growing wave of unvaccinated patients who have become so seriously sick with the Delta variant they need to be hospitalized," Allen said. "Hospitals are converting outpatient rooms to medical surgical rooms or ICU beds. Patients are parked in hallways. Staffing is critically short."



    On Thursday morning, Allen said 200 patients were waiting in emergency departments across the state for a bed.

    Dr. Jeff Absalon, the chief physician executive for St. Charles Health System in central Oregon, says they've had to cancel or postpone 3,000 scheduled surgeries because hospitals are overwhelmed with COVID-19 patients.

    "These are not cosmetic surgeries," Absalon said. "These are very necessary, critical surgeries for the patients that we serve. These are patients that have cancer, heart disease, neurological disease, surgeries that are necessary to preserve life and function, and they’re being delayed right now. So, quite simply put, and I don’t want to mince my words, we are rationing care."

    Absalon says what his health system is going through is "unimaginable."

    "Our frontline health care workers that have been caring for patients every day are exhausted. They are burned out, and we’re in a pandemic that many of us regard, at this time, as largely preventable," he said.

    Oregon is now leaning on other states and the federal government for help.

    Director Allen says the state has asked FEMA for a mobile hospital.

    "We’re keeping Oregon’s congressional delegation informed while we continue discussions with our federal partners," Allen said. "We understand that many other states are facing even worse challenges than Oregon, but we will continue to pursue federal help despite the competing demands for these limited resources."



    FEMA will send 24 EMTs to the state to help at emergency departments. That assistance is expected to arrive in four days. The EMTs will work in six hospitals in Jackson, Josephine, Deschutes and Douglas counties.

    Additionally, state leaders are requesting 35 physicians, 35 advanced practice providers, 300 registered nurses, 10 paramedics and 100 respiratory therapists from other states. Those workers would be deployed to central and southern Oregon.



    The state is also now asking long-term care facilities to help with hospital overflow.

    "Skilled nursing facilities and rehabilitation centers will stand up surge and decompression beds in high impact regions to help hospital patients who are waiting for discharge to other facilities where they can continue to safely recover," Allen explained, adding that eight crisis nurse teams will come to help those long-term care facilities.

    Absalon says health care workers are dealing with what's called "moral injury." That injury is what health care workers feel when they can't help the patients right in front of them the way they need to. Absalon says his health system has 800 open positions. Those who are working are treating COVID-19 patients both in denial and desperate.

    "We’ve also had patients coming into our hospitals that don’t believe in COVID-19 disease, that are diagnosed with the disease. They don’t believe in it," Absalon said. "Then there are those who didn’t believe in COVID-19 or didn’t believe in vaccinations until they were in our care, gasping for their last breath of air, and became believers and later encourage their family members to get vaccinated."

    Absalon and other health care leaders are urging people to get vaccinated, saying although there have been breakthrough cases, the vaccine is the best way to prevent severe disease and hospitalization.

    "If you’re not vaccinated, get vaccinated," Absalon pleaded. "It’s exactly what needs to happen. This is the way out of this pandemic. There's strong science behind these vaccines."

    https://katu.com/news/coronavirus/o...rease-500-officials-request-out-of-state-help
     
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    The Cost Of Being Unvaccinated Just Went Up
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    With highly effective coronavirus vaccines available and hospital admissions soaring, many Covid-19 patients are facing bigger bills as most insurance companies have ended waivers on out-of-pocket costs that they introduced earlier in the pandemic, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation, a cost that will be primarily borne by the unvaccinated people more likely to require hospital treatment.

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    Key Facts
    Earlier in the pandemic, the vast majority of private health insurers voluntarily waived out-of-pocket costs for Covid-19 treatment, meaning some 88% of people with insurance coverage would have paid nothing if hospitalized.

    With no federal mandate requiring insurers to waive these costs, few regulations requiring them to do so at the state level and the wide availability of effective vaccines, the majority have now passed these costs back to patients, according to research by the Kaiser Family Foundation.

    Of the two largest health plans in each state and Washington, D.C., nearly three-quarters (72%) are now passing out-of-pocket costs—including copays and payments towards deductibles—for Covid-19 treatment back to patients, KFF found.

    The 102 providers studied represent 62% of enrollment across fully insured individual and group markets, KFF said.

    Almost half of the insurers studied had terminated waivers by April, roughly the time all adults in the country became eligible for a vaccine, and the majority of those still eating the costs—nearly a quarter of the the insurers studied—intend to stop by the end of the year.

    Of the remainder, two plans (around 2% of the total) have waivers set to expire by March 2022 and just five (around 5%) do not specify when waivers will expire.

    Key Background
    While Covid-19 vaccines and most coronavirus tests are supposed to be free, Americans hospitalized with coronavirus can still be billed for care. Even with comprehensive coverage, the usual suite of deductibles, copayments and coinsurance apply, and many of those admitted to a hospital have received surprise bills of astronomical sizes upon leaving. With Covid-19 cases and hospital admissions surging—primarily among unvaccinated people across the country—and waivers coming to an end, it is likely that many people will be receiving bills for treatment. New waivers are possible—some due to expire in October are pegged to the ending of the federal Public Health Emergency—though perhaps unlikely given the availability of free vaccines that are highly effective at preventing serious illness and hospitalization. Many believe vaccine holdouts should have to pay more for their health insurance and employers are reportedly considering raising premiums to try and employees to get the shot. Polling suggests Americans are neatly divided on the issue, with around half (49%) in favor of employers charging unvaccinated people more for insurance. Of those opposing, 73% were not vaccinated.


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    Just over half of the U.S. population is fully vaccinated against Covid-19. The vast majority of those hospitalized with the infection have not received it. Almost all of those dying from Covid-19 have not. Not all are eligible for vaccination, however, and hospitals are filling up with record numbers of children suffering from the disease and younger people who may not have been eligible for the shot for very long.

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    I analyzed adverse events as part of my job. First, most are minor. I had a sore arm for a day. That's an adverse event. Second, patients might correlate something that happened in close proximity to a medication or vaccine that is unrelated. A 73 year old who died after being vaccinated could well have died from other causes. That's why they are analyzed. Not just spit out to justify a political position.

    600,000 dead Americans and counting.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Ivermectin - Can treat infections caused by roundworms, threadworms, and other parasites.
    What kind of idiot would take this as treatment for Covid-19 caused by a virus?
     
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    628,000 now and growing…mostly needlessly.
     
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    You know most covid deaths occurred before the vaccine even came out, right? You can’t accurately blame most deaths on antivaxxer boogeymen.
     
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    My wife and I - kind of reluctantly - recently got vaccinated. Nonetheless, we did it. Now, we just received news last evening of the passing of Nashville radio icon, Phil Valentine, who had previously poo-poo'd getting vaccinated, then completely reversed that position.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...regretted-vaccine-skepticism-dies-of-covid-19

    Conservative radio host who regretted vaccine skepticism dies of COVID-19
     
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    Well that is very goofy logic to me. Of course the vaccine would prevent deaths, duh. The more vaccine administered the less deaths we should have. Antivaxers simply slow down decrease in death rate from the virus.
     
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    Either that or the pandemic was winding down anyway. The vaccine didn’t singlehandedly slow the pandemic to its current rate. You can’t really make that claim while simultaneously screaming that it’s back with a vengeance. The two sort of contradict each other. Does the thing work or not? Close to 50% of the population is vaccinated and now the narrative has changed that somehow the unvaccinated are driving a new pandemic? There isn’t any logic to this while pushing the vaccine as the holy grail of covid prevention.
     
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    Look at the slopes of the rates of infection. An increasing slope before the vaccine introduction shows that it was not winding down on it's own and a decrease in the slope of the rate or infection right when the vaccine was introduced tells me the vaccine was working.
     
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    I was referring to the “and growing” part of my statement regarding those deaths being mostly needless. I know you’re supercharged looking for attacks, but sometimes a statement is just a statement.
     
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    The other day I went to Rite Aide to get my flu shot and as I was waiting two young guys late teens early 20’s jus got their covid vaccines and came over to sit down for the 15 min wait, and one if the boys passed out in the chair for about 20 seconds. He came to and seemed ok just a bit disoriented. Anyway, there was a middle aged gal waiting for her covid shot but after she saw the kid pass out got up told the pharmacist she going to wait another day and took off.
     
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    1. Why isn't the VA giving out their flu shots yet?
    2. When will the booster Covid vaccine be offered?
     
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    You know "growing" means in the present right? And you know the vaccines are presently out and readily available, right?
     
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    if only he was smart enough to get vaccinated. He’d be alive and well. Darwinism award goes to him and others like him
     
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    That's a pretty common reaction to getting any shot. When I was in elementary school we took a field trip to a local clinic and the doctor took out a needle and started describing standard procedure, one student passed out, then another, then another. It was crazy and contagious, the teachers panicked and made us all sit down. It was quite a scene, 5 people in total all passed out.

    After I got my Covid shot, I got real light headed and had to sit down. I'm pretty sure it's just because it's been hyped up into such a big deal that you can't help but feel a whole range of emotions.
     
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    wow, never heard of something like that.
    When I got mine (both) I got all hyper and felt fantastic.
     
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    Ive done some reading since then and apparently passing out in a situation can be suggestive for people who are already prone. Kids are extra suggestive to those type of things. So now if anyone in a group feels light headed I always scan the whole group.
     
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    In other news, I am sitting in an ER parking lot right now. My wife had a procedure a few weeks ago that she is recovering from. She's had a strange pain in her calf so she is concerned about a blood clot. It's probably nothing but not something to take a risk on.

    We are at Hillsboro Kaiser and it's pretty laid back here. They have a Covid tent and a bunch of extra sign in procedures but she got right in. No one can wait with her though.
     
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