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I believe you are incorrect sir.

 

But I will bounce it off more medical professionals.

 

I read the Time article which of course is not a peer reviewed study. And which is not about vaccines or boosters. It's about an auto immune response.

If boosters increased stroke risk then we would see excess strokes in boosted people. I have seen no such statistics.

 

Some can read. I happen to be one of them.

 

Do you agree that boosters increase the antibodies in your bloodstream?

Do you agree that elevated antibodies in your bloodstream increase the probability of a stroke?

 

So surely we'd be able to see a study showing the wide increase in blood clots and strokes after getting boosted?

 

I probably would agree if you could show me a peer reviewed study that verified it...

 

No
An auto immune disorder is not at all the same as vaccine.

 

So you don’t believe vaccines increase the antibodies in your bloodstream. Okay.

 

Why would anybody rely on belief here? Simply post the evidence...

 

I actually have studied antigen/antibody system in detail. Behind schedule but will post more later. Just for now, every time you catch a cold or cut a finger it triggers an antibody response. Cutting a finger doesn't give you a stroke. At least I hope not, the knife slipped chopping carrots yesterday and I am awkwardly typing with bandaged fingers.

 

1. Antibodies are very specific. That is why a smallpox vaccine does not protect against measles, for example, and why you need a flu shot every year.
2. We live in a very nasty world full of microbes and other unpleasant things that can harm us. A healthy immune system is constantly producing antibodies to whatever antigen* it encounters. Our immune systems are capable of making literally millions of highly specific antibodies. When they are no longer needed they are largely broken down and eliminated.
3. Because of this, a question like does a vaccine increase the amount of antibodies in our blood is nonsensical. Our overall antibody population is in constant flux depending on what we encounter, vaccines, age, state of health and other factors.
4. Sometimes, for reasons not fully understood, things go awry and the immune system attacks the person. This is basis for allergies, conditions like Gulf War Syndrome, some forms of asthma, autoimmune diseases like lupus. The Time article describes a similar situation in some people who have had Covid-19. They are left with an autoimmune condition. Autoimmune means it comes from our bodies, not an outside agent like a vaccine.
5. The condition described in the Time article has no apparent connection to the Covid vaccine and certainly not the boosters which, as has been pointed out, were not around when the article was written.
6. Antibodies do not cause blood to thicken. Our blood is very finely regulated (in a healthy person). It can thicken due to extreme dehydration, abnormally high levels of iron, and other conditions. Not antibodies.
7. There is no evidence that Covid vaccines cause strokes. Strokes are commonest in older people, and older people are the ones most likely to be vaccinated and boosted. So if there was a connection between Covid vaccine/booster and strokes we would have pretty clear correlation showing. Evidence is just not there.
9. The classic vaccine pushes the immune system to make antibodies to the virus, bacteria, or whatever. But some vaccines, rather than resulting in antibodies, work by preventing virus from attaching to and entering cells. Viruses, by definition, can only reproduce and cause infection inside cells.
9. I have no idea what was said in a private conversation between a person on the board and their doctor. Some MDs have gone rogue during Covid (see America's Frontline Doctors, for example). Sometimes a person misinterprets what is said. I have no idea in this case because I have no firsthand knowledge of what was said by whom.
10. Get. The. Damn. Vaccine.

*Antigen is defined as anything that provokes an antibody response. I know that sounds a bit circular but that is the definition.

 

Since I've been vaccinated and boosted my doctor has actually been amazed at how my heart has recovered...it's shrunken back to normal after being enlarged, my afib has calmed way down and my numbers are the best I've had in ages......I feel so much better and so much less prone to heart failure or stroke.....some of it is diet and lifestyle but I've had no adverse reactions to the vaccine and I have a bum ticker....my 2 cents. I've also not had so much as a cold or sniffle since so I'm in the camp that getting vaxxed may have helped boost my immune system, not compromised it.

 

Because there's no money in that evidence. Quite the opposite...

 

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/la...before-human-testing-is-completed-11661679003

Latest Covid Boosters Are Set to Roll Out Before Human Testing Is Completed

The FDA and vaccine makers say they are confident that shots targeting Omicron subvariants will work safely

 

I have no problem getting it. At all.

 

I’ll bring it up with the doctor I see. Dr. Wilkins was subbing as my normal doc was out sick with Covid oddly enough. Dr. Wilkins presented a very strong case though.

 

Days After Approving Another $3 Billion for Ukraine War, US Says No More Money for Free Covid Tests

"Well this is quite exactly the wrong thing to do going into fall/winter," said one infectious disease doctor.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2...-ukraine-war-us-says-no-more-money-free-covid