OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. beast blazer

    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    It's not cherry picked data at all, I showed you the data for the US overall. And am giving you examples to refute the positions you're taking. This data stands in the aggregate, when looking at data from several nations. Do you want to see states with denser populations? How about California, it's density is 2.5x the national average.

    There were big spikes in death in 2020 in some states. But they reflect another pattern seen around the world. Spikes in death that follow policy changes. And after vaccine rollout, we can see spikes that correspond to vaccine rollout as well.

    I'm not saying it was all caused by the V, but social isolation, closing down schools, the fear mongering, and medical protocols such as witholding antibiotics, giving people deadly Remdesivir and putting them on ventilators. Most of the death was caused by the response to covid. Over and over, we don't see any signal in the ACM data until government policy kicks in.

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    The vast majority of the restrictions took place in places that saw early signs of spikes in infection. Without a vaccine there was nothing we were going to do to avoid those spikes, but the policies kept the spikes from being far worse.

    The spikes post vaccine were very clearly because restrictions and attitudes about covid relaxed. At no point were excess mortality rates among the vaccinated greater than the unvaccinated population. In fact, excess mortality rates among the vaccinated were far lower than among the unvaccinated. There was never a point that this wasn't the case.
     
  3. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Thats a lot of numbers and pics and highlighting……. but one thing I CAN tell you, I wasn’t sick ONCE in the 2 years we had to wear masks…..AND for the first time since I was a kid, I had no allergies…….Nothing! I don’t need graphs to tell me that the masks worked or didn’t.
     
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    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    Well why did you stop wearing it then? Go ahead and wear a mask the rest of your life, just don't try and insist others participate in your delusion.
     
  5. riverman

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    Surgeons, Nurses, Firefighters, Crowd control officers, Dentists, House Painters, Furniture makers, and on and on wear masks throughout their workday to protect their lungs from toxic elements or infections....SARS was wiped out by a nation who required citizens have temperatures taken before entering work or any public building and masks were required everywhere....I was in Taipei for the entire SARS epidemic....nobody fucking died from wearing a mask....I worked on paint crews and nobody died from wearing a fucking mask....I was hospitalized with heart issues and had several surgeries over COVID and nobody died from a mask or vaccine...we rank really poorly in the global response to COVID and millions died because of stubborness about things like wearing a fucking mask....and wearing a mask in public during COVID...I never got COVID....even in the hospital. I honestly don't care if people ignore the science but I do care if they distort it for political spin points. Vaccinations are required if you work overseeas or move home from overseas and want your kids to go to public school....always have been ..people have such selective memories about basic facts when they don'tsupport their narrative. People said stupid shit about penicillin when it was discovered too until it cured their syphillis. I'm proof vaccinations and masks can keep you safe from covid . Must be the right mask...not a cloth bandana. Try talking to doctors and nurses who worked all through the pandemic and you get a clear picture of the science....and of the over one million dead from covid...it was a vast majority of anti vaccine folk that died. Those mask wearing New Zealanders andTaiwanese had only single digit deaths as they took the pandemic seriously from day one...we had the red and blue year and a half long debate before curbing the spread...dumb fucking move on our part..our leader wanted to inject bleach....contrary to what someone said here, toddlers were never required to wear masks or recommended to wear them...they're just filters...I filter my drinking water as well...no big fucking deal.
     
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    I worked in biopharma and wore mask in production area. In fact we were covered hard to foot. To protect ourselves and the product.
     
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    Tested positive this morning. Been struggling with bad cough and low energy.
     
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    Shit. Stay home, drink fluids, rest. Call doctor if you get worse.
     
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    Sorry to read this.

    Bummer, being sick for real, to get out of doing chores.

    Keep us posted, and get well soon.
     
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    Dang. Sorry to hear it.
     
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    Oh no! This is not the right way to start summer off.

    Take it easy. You might want to call your doctor and tell them. Get well soon!
     
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    I tested positive last night. Sucks to be us.

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    I wish you a total and speedy recovery!
     
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    I hope you get over it quickly!
     
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    Chicken soup
     
  16. Hoopguru

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    Get well Pirate!
     
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    Hope you get well soon!
     
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    I know there was a report that Paxlovid was ineffective, but I took it when I got Covid and recovered in a week. Get well, folks.
     
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    I don’t know of any reputable reports that said it was ineffective. It shortens the duration of the disease, but there’s a risk of relapse.
     
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    I took chicken soup and was fine in 3 days.
     
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