OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

That is awful. Sorry for your loss.

 

That wasn't my point at all. My point was/is that many, many of you in here keep pointing back to when he should have acted more strongly...and that lives have and will be lost because of it. Yes, let's all agree on that point.

The issue, now, in my mind is, how has/is he responding from there? Well, he and his team are out there every single day providing response updates, while, I believe, doing all he can to get us out of this mess. Sure, there are still shortages on equipment, supplies, and the like...but I think he has been engaging Congress, Governors, manufacturers, suppliers, etc. at every turn.

Sure, we can discuss and debate how well (or not) he's doing that, but my goodness people, can we at least try and somewhat come together during this crisis and give the man at least a little bit of credit/support moving forward?? If not, then so be it. Nothing to really say there.

However, I choose to be optimistic that he's taken charge and, I believe, doing everything within his scope to eliminate this virus and save lives. The graph I shared was just an indicator that seeming shows others feeling this same way. Hope that makes sense.

 

Actually, it was @SlyPokerDog who, I believe, said he was going to donate a bunch of the masks he had purchased - like, 2 big boxes worth.

We do have 8 of them, but our extended family has none, so we're keeping them just in case. As for now, the package remains unopened.

Thanks for checking in.

 

Give him credit for what exactly? Gimme a fucking break.

 

Is it a better idea to keep them just in case instead of letting doctors use them in the next couple weeks to actually save lives?

I get that we all want to take care of our own. I think of you as a pretty devout, wholesome person. If six months from now you are cleaning out your garage, how are you going to feel when you see that package remains unopened, while doctors and nurses in your area were getting infected because of bad masks?

Or what if there's a doctor shortage in your area because too many get infected. Who will treat your family? Is it really safer holding on to those masks?

Sorry, I'm not trying to pick on you over this relatively little thing.

I am trying to make a larger point. I think it's natural for all of us to grab what we can for our family (hence the toilet paper runs). I don't agree with Trump on much, but I do agree we are at war here. In a war, you have to look out for the greater good, and usually by doing so you are also doing what's best for your family.

 

What gave you that impression? ugh this is just so frustrating.

 

I've been reading his posts for years--probably at least a decade. I disagree with his politics immensely, and I don't always follow his logic, but I get the sense I'd be quite happy to have him as a friend.

 

As have I. But his utter ignorance of facts to push his agenda is tiring. Even the most staunch conservatives I know in my real life have come around to acknowledging how flawed Trump has been in dealing with this crisis. But here, we get posts like this: http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/abortions-included-in-tennessee-ban-on-non-emergency-surgeries-amid-covid-19-outbreak.355320/

At this point, this isn't even a question of politics to me anymore. It's morality. Some people are on the right, some aren't. It's fucking sad that a large, yet vocal minority of this country still are wrong even after facing raw hard facts.

 

Godamighty, if Trump really was taking charge I would be exponentially more worried. Governors and health care workers are taking charge.

 

Tell me how you really feel.

 

Or open up a damn science book

 

Because we've actually met(?)

 

I just spoke with my wife. We'll be donating all the masks we have. I'm not certain where to take them locally, but I'll figure it out.

Thanks for the heads-up.

 

Ditto, mon frere.

 

On CNN Mike Pence just said we are one thousand days ahead of the Coronavirus.

 

Gotta be one of the best well thought out and articulated posts I've read in some time...kudos.