OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    The left: Why doesn’t Trump force states to close?

    also the left: Trump doesn’t have the authority to open states.

    also the left: Let’s blame Trump for allowing states to open on their own.

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    Seattle has open some parks with a few controls criteria
     
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    Can't blame the "left"...that was the constitution speaking.
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    So which is it? They asked Trump to force states to close too. So it’s okay to break the constitution as long as it’s aligned with the lefts agenda?
     
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    Didn't say that.

    ...only saying that as a matter of constitutional law, Trump was wrong in claiming that he "calls the shots" on reopening states...he doesn't.
     
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    That’s fine. I guess we can say the left is wrong for assuming Trump has the authority to shut them down. Correct?
     
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    We will see how it goes. Hopefully it goes better than it did in Florida.
     
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    Your view is your own...you can say what you want...but I'm not obligated to agree.

    I believe you also said earlier that you like to use FOX links instead of CNN so you wouldn't appear to be biased.
     
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  11. Chris Craig

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    Nah, he shouldn't have forced anything in the beginning. He should have taken it seriously and called for a shutdown, talked about it with the governor's. Put everything on the table. He failed to have any reasonable leadership.

    No he can't force the governor's to open states

    But, right after he did speak with governors and came up with guidelines, beginning to do something close to the right thing, he immediately called for his supporters to liberate and rebel against those guidelines.

    So, yeah when mass amounts of his supporters contract Covid-19 and die, that's on him and his butt buddy DeSantis.
     
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    I think that’s pretty weak. It’s not a view. Either the President has the power to shut down states or he doesn’t. If you think he can force states to shut down, then you have to agree he has the power to force them to open.
     
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    Quite the risk. I guess we’ll see
     
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    Risking people's lives is never a risk worth taking. We shall see
     
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    Go back and reread...I never argued that point. My point was that no, Trump does not have the constitutional power to force states to reopen, period.
     
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    Leaders risk the lives of others all throughout world history. Some risks pay off, others fail miserably.
     
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    The right: do what Trump says,
    Also the right: don’t do what trump says, liberate
    Also the right: it’s the governors in charge
    Also the right: this isn’t trumps fault it’s the states fault
    Also the right: the states should be in charge
     
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    I read that. And I also expanded that statement that he doesn’t have the power to shut them down.
     
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    here’s to hopin
     
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    We aren't talking about the military here. We are talking about civilians. Some risks do pay off, but at what cost?
     
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