OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

You aren’t in California.

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Stay home except for essential needs
Everyone in California is required to stay home except to get food, care for a relative or friend, get necessary health care, or go to an essential job. If you go out, stay at least 6 feet away from other people and wear a cloth face covering.

The stay-home order began Thursday, March 19, 2020 and is in place until further notice.”

they arrested someone paddle boarding all by himself.
https://covid19.ca.gov/

 

that's just the summary. If you follow the links to the details of that order you'd find:

" So long as you are maintaining a safe social distance of six feet from people who aren’t part of your household, it is ok to go outside for exercise, a walk or fresh air. Gyms are closed."

" You can walk your dog. You can go to the vet or pet hospital if your pet is sick. Remember to distance yourself at least six feet from other pets and owners."

" Californians can walk, run, hike and bike in their local neighborhoods as long as they continue to practice social distancing of 6 feet. This means avoiding crowded trails & parking lots."

" You may leave your home to obtain prescriptions or get cannabis from a licensed cannabis retailer"

it's restrictive, just like Oregon's stay at home order, but it doesn't seem onerous

as for the paddle-boarder, he was arrested for violating lawful orders of a lifeguard who told him to get out of the water. That's completely justifiable because if the paddle-boarder got into trouble and needed rescue, that would potentially expose the lifeguard to the virus. Essentially, the guy was arrested for being an asshole

 

So the question... Is this violating our civil rights?

 

Healthcare workers being laid off

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-care-workers-furloughed-laid-off/5102320002/

 

357 new cases in Washington today.

 

Big difference. Anne Frank was prisoner in a fascist regime. Last time I checked, we had civil liberties in this country.

 

It was definitely a major plank of his platform. Health care was a huge issue in 2016 too. He made a very big deal about how he was going to replace Obamacare with something terrific for everyone.

Sure, we can wait and see.

 

They were 1 yes away from doing it to. But I was against the repeal and replace ObamaCare. As I wrote above. That was a big policy difference I had.

 

Really? So can you assemble for church? Can a Democrat or Republican Party have a rally? Or can a party assemble for signing people up?

 

I read the OLive article and the question I have is if Oregon ramped up testing would we then continue to have the inventory of tests replenished at a rate that would continue the higher rate of testing. In other words, would the state quickly run out of tests with a higher testing rate?

the article didn't discuss that

as for a comparison to California and Washington

tests/1 million:

Washington - 18,604
Oregon - 9,207
California - 6,294

total-tests for every positive:

Oregon - 20.4
Washington - 11.5
California - 8.0

Washington got a 'head start' on testing because it was the first big hot spot in the Seattle area. Even with that it has 6.4 times as many cases, 8.7 times as many deaths, but only twice as many tests per capita

that I don't about, but I'm not sure exactly how she could be "addressing" the issue if there's a manpower shortage

 

I don't think so, but I'm an introvert.