OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Fake motherfuckers like that this piss me off. Using religion to make money...to buy expensive suits, cars, houses, jets, etc. All while pretending to preach the word of God.

    And then to take another step and pretend to have created cures or to be able to cure diseases like Covid-19. They take advantage of so many people. It gets me heated to see it.
     
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    two important takeaways form that article in my view.

    * One is that immunity, whether individual or herd, may very well not be as effective as hoped. It's not going to be a superpower and there are plenty of hints it won't grant any long term (as in months) shield against re-infection

    * but the bigger takeaway is the same as just about every question right now: we just don't know enough. There's too little data and we're only a couple of months into studying the virus, the disease, and it's outcomes. We don't know how widespread it is because of massive testing failures. We don't know the level of asymptomatic infections or how infectious those people are. We don't know about the levels of antibody production in cleared patients or how long those antibodies last. Basically, we don't know jack shit yet

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    in other words, at the same time we are trying to flatten curves, we are on the wrong side of the learning curves.

    and here are some articles about doctors having to re-think treatment for severe cases and the uses of ventilators. Basically, what we suspect now is a lot different than what we thought a month ago:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/14/nyregion/new-york-coronavirus.html

    https://www.statnews.com/2020/04/08/doctors-say-ventilators-overused-for-covid-19/

    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156#vp_1
     
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    The video is from an investigative reporter. But there is a timeline of events reported on the destruction of samples there. I’ll find the WSJ and New York Times articles when I get them. I’ll edit them into this post.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ph/entertain...-china-e2-80-99s-world-domination/ar-BB12EQ5U


    One report of destroying samples
    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/e...us-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-in-china

    a WSJ article:
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-it-all-started-chinas-early-coronavirus-missteps-11583508932
     
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    The king of ventilators? Jesus this fucking guy
     
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    @illmatic99 what are you hearing about immune system stressors and how it relates to the virus, those who are asymptomatic now, but later becoming sick after other attacks on the immune system?
     
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    And it doesn’t have to mean it’s nefarious either. Being proactive to study the mutations is in the boundaries of good science. Especially when they’ve (China) had epidemics of SARS before.

    It can be entirely possible that a level 4 lab, Secretary of State officials warning the safety of those labs were in question, accidentally infected one of their workers.
     
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    I'm pointing out the gaps in logic when it comes to Trump "fixing the media", not whether or not you fact check.
     
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    Well, that’s easy. Over sensualist headlines by all media exposing the reports of narrative, not actual news. And, as I explained, it’s on all fronts of the media spectrum.
     
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    Here is a big unknown and a possible giant problem, it's the people who are asymptomatic right now. Being asymptomatic does not mean they are immune. It means they are not being affected currently by the virus. Their immune system is doing well and keeping the virus at bay. Something like getting the flu could be enough to stress the immune system and suddenly it's trying to fight the flu and the coronavirus.

    There might be some evidence to support this when looking at how healthcare workers are not fitting in the standard demographic of only the olds are getting sick from this. Stress has a proven impact on the immune system and healthcare workers on the frontlines are extremely stressed and tired from the long hours being worked right now.

    That's why mass testing is so important right now. It doesn't just give us the basic who is and who isn't infected, it establishes a timeline of when someone was infected, if they show symptoms at a later date, and what might have triggered those symptoms.
     
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    Cuz we all need it

     
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    Maybe the media could stop using stock photos for their narrative pushing? Thanks, that would be great.
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    Lol
     
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    Here is the real question that the scientists and doctors won't address or much less answer.

    Do farts kill the virus or spread the virus?

    Because I could see mine doing either.
     
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