OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

it would seem that even with our large metro areas in this country we are behind australia, canada and russia, countries with a significant rural populations.

1. China 1,394,015,977 6. Nigeria 214,028,302
2. India 1,326,093,247 7. Brazil 211,715,973
3. United States 332,639,102 8. Bangladesh 162,650,853
4. Indonesia 267,026,366 9. Russia 141,722,205
5. Pakistan 233,500,636 10. Mexico 128,649,565
this is a list of countries by population so even a comparison to russia is a scale of 2-1. and no one trusts china's data. it would seem also that as a nation as technically advanced and rich as USA compared to any of the others in the top 10 would be flawed or at least skewed in the numbers. our advanced healthcare resources aught to leave any of the others far in the dust i would hope.

 

New Zealand and Australia have done a way better job containing the virus than we have in the States

 

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the tests/1 million for nations can be found here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

all the categories appear to be sort-able

India is at the bottom, but they are, if not a 3rd world country, barely a 2nd world country with 4 times our population. Not a good comp. China's numbers can't be trusted. Russia is probably a good comp, and they are beating the USA testing rate while having less than a 1000 dead....that's probably not a accurate number but the difference is so stark it makes for a good comp...maybe

the state data is found here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

again, those are sort-able categories

for good comps, I think you probably need stick with industrialized 1st world nations. The main point being that even though we have a high number of tests in the USA, the testing rate is obviously too low to be able to set smart policy. Since this began, the US has been saddled with testing failure, and for the most part, we still are. That needs to change but from what I've read about the bottlenecks, it's a real challenge to get testing, and tracing, ahead of the curves. Until we can we're flying blind

 

Agreed, I’ll take a look.

 

You guys may nave had it? My wife was sick in January with similar symptoms and I just had a head cold for a week.

 

this is the elephant in the room

if you can overlook, the partisan left wing nature of the website, there's a good write-up about the notions of immunity here:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...ity-against-catching-COVID-19-again-and-again

and that's the worry: if being infected with Covid does not grant any long-term immunity to a large percentage of those recovered, there will be not real herd immunity. And that is a bad sign for creating vaccine immunity

flu kills 20,000-60,000 a year in US and that's when we have widely available, effective vaccines and flu carries a mortality rate of .1%, or less. If Covid's mortality rate is .7%-1.0% (or higher) and there are no effective vaccines, with immunity only weeks-months long, at best, and only that for part of those recovered, it could kill millions worldwide each year, and several hundred thousand in the US each year

that's a worst case though. I'd think even if a vaccine proves elusive, effective treatments will be developed

 

Thank you @SlyPokerDog !

 

BTW, the anti-vaxxers sure are quiet now, aren't they?

 

In California among main organizers. Trumpers and antivaxxers and Nazis oh my!

 

Not really, I see them still talking about it right now.

 

I wonder if Trump will take questions today?

 

It will weaken.

 

i just read that some of the protesters in Wisconsin were from those groups and are concerned about government force inoculations for the virus. the protester arrested in Meridian Idaho over park usage and some of the crowd around her protest were also members of an Idaho anti-vaxxer group.

 

yup, mentioned this potentiality after recalling the promised HIV vaccine from our government in the 80's.

 

Hopefully your right but nobody really knows for sure.

 

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