OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

I've read that some scientists believe a vaccine will be ready this fall/ winter, Some say 12-18 months, Some fear there will never be a vaccine.

 

We just passed 1 million cases in the U.S.

 

NY/NJ with 40% of those cases.

 

When I open up your link, I click on my post you reference and it goes to the post below. Fake News!!!!

 

Just making the point that there are huge deaths over things we have control over as a society, nothing to do with what is or isn't contagious. Doesn't have to be right or wrong its just an opinion I expressed.
I just went through a car wash, in grocery store, liquor store, hardware store and drug store and there were herds of people.
6 people under 60 have died in Oregon and they had underlying conditions. I doubt we wait for a vaccine before things are totally opened up plus it can be up to the person to do as they like once the governor opens things up.

 

I started reading it but the author lost me at moral imperative to not stay home. Obviously we have very different ideas of morality.

Not a betting woman but feel reasonably sure author is not a health care worker, not a front line worker (grocery clerk, mail carrier, farm worker), and is white.

When a 5 year old girl dies in Michigan, when we just passed a million cases, when a former Blazer loses two family members in a week, it's a moral imperative to not stay home? Are you aware of the consensus among public health experts that US infections would have been 90% less if a stay at home order was in place just two weeks earlier? Or reduced by 60% if a stay at home order was in place just one week earlier? But Trump was busy proclaiming that it would miraculously disappear, although he had been briefed, just didn't bother to read the briefings.

It's a moral imperative to follow the science.

If someone really wants to die for Trump, unfortunately, they will take others with them. And burden our health care workers.

Stay home, wash your hands.

 

Everything in your post was great until you said that bigoted comment.

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...stay-and-likely-seasonal-say-china-scientists
i know already, can't trust the chinese scientists or data,even though this prediction dovetails with fauci's prediction that this is likely to become seasonal.


Fauci says it's likely coronavirus will be seasonal

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...-says-its-likely-coronavirus-will-be-seasonal

 

With Donald Trump at the helm it's doubtful we get any kind control.

 

The “never be a vaccine” is based on no corona virus, common cold, SARS1, MERS had a vaccine made. It’s actually a legitimate concern.

 

I have not seen anything from those in control suggest keeping states shut down until a vaccine has been made available

 

I hope it’s like SARS and MERS where it eventually just goes away

 

I said totally open and I was commenting on Oregon. I favor a govern approach and each State is control of what they want to do. I think Oregon is getting close to the 14 days if not already to go into phase one soon.

 

My goodness...no, we're not all using the same info/graphs. The one I posted is from a completely different site, and it shows that when Tennessee decided to open up again they had just had "5 successive days of a large sudden spike" in the number of
new cases"...sorry, but that's not "leveling off" and it is certainly not within the "14-15 day" time period prescribed by the Fed.

Reread @wizenheimer 's post #8620, he even says that there's a lot of ways to look at some of this data and different parameters.

This is part of what I tried to explain about "misinformation" in my previous post...and i don't see why it needed explaining again for about the FIFTH time.